Angels

Does anyone believe in angels?

What do you believe them to be?

What about nefilim, the half human half angel hybrids that the Great Flood from the bible was supposed to have wiped out?

I find the whole subject fascinating, quite a few cultures have angels in thier religious beliefs, some of them not from an Abrahamic tradition. 

As someone said on another thread, do angels have the equipment to procreate?

Lucifer who was said to have been cast out of heaven by god along with his followers and went to hell and became the devil and demons etc, did hell already exist? Was it vacant when Lucifer took up residence there? A Lucifer figure appears in many religions and myths to, whats-his-face being punnished for giving humans fire and the other one who pushes a rock up a hill everyday only for it to roll back down every night and the one who has his liver pecked out by and eagle on a daily basis, why do we need these transgressive figures who appear to want to aid human development only to be punished by god who seemingly dosen't want us to develope?

There are also lots of myths about Watchers, Grigori and others who are the decendents of the Nephilim and keep watch ove rthe earth and certain individials and maybe bloodlines?

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  • I personally believe in angels and God! I also believe they are workers for God who were born in Heaven I guess. I believe in guardian angels but I do believe humans who go to Heaven when the time is right don’t become angels themselves as apparently they are different specials but have human like forms plus the wings! However I’m worried I’ll be viewed negatively as I am left handed and I believe Lucifer is as well 

  • I believe that the negative connotations of being left handed evolved from human ignorance and I haven’t come across any references to God condemning people for being left handed.

    Your belief about the place of angels in relation to humans is what most Christian denominations teach and what the Bible shows, but I think some Christians talk about their children as angels, not realising what they are saying. 

  • I completely agree with you there. I do have a more Christian view on things, but I can see what you are saying about Christians saying their kids are little angels too. And ok to the left handed thing. I think it’s because there have been “religious” schools and places that punish those who are left handed and say we are from the devil. This is where I think people use religion as their excuse to bully in hope that God will forgive them. But that was years ago when my dad was in school and he’s right handed anyway. 

    I also want to add that I also believe in the existence of Greek and Egyptian Gods and Goddesses and religions  as well. 

  • That’s a very good question really and I have often thought this. Adam and Eve were never mentioned after they died but the Bible does say they had sinned by eating the sacred fruits. I’m sure it also mentioned that due to them eating the fruits that woman will struggle when it comes to giving birth. Hmm. Their younger son Abel I believe is in heaven as he was always following God compared to his older brother Cain who then killed Abel. As for Noah I believe he was Jewish so maybe he’s now in a Jewish heaven, same with Moses. I think the reason why Jesus Christ was born was in hope that people would believe in him and know that they would go to heaven but I don’t think the Jewish people believe Jesus as the messiah where as Christians do. Hope this makes sense and I apologise if I have got this wrong in anyway. 

    I am C of E Christian but I don’t go to church as there aren’t any local ones which are running so I just practice in my own time and place. But I also believe in Egyptian and Greek and many more Gods and Goddesses as well and I enjoy studying other religions too. Maybe God created other Gods and Goddesses, like he chose certain people to be his prophets. 

  • Being a polytheist, I'm perplexed when people say to me, 'so you don't believe in god then?', I tell them I do believe in the Christian god, but choose not to worship him. I'd say I have more a of a relationship with the divine than belief or worship, I agree with Terry Pratchet when he said 'witches believe in their gods like they believe in the postman'. They just are, all of them, I think there's a whole race of gods and goddesses some take notice of us, some don't.

    The mediaeval church was really worried about the contradictions in the bible, were people like Adam and Noah waiting in purgatory or hell because they weren't Christian because Christ hadn't been born when they were alive? Did they have some sort of "get out of jail free" card after Jesus's death?

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  • Being a polytheist, I'm perplexed when people say to me, 'so you don't believe in god then?', I tell them I do believe in the Christian god, but choose not to worship him. I'd say I have more a of a relationship with the divine than belief or worship, I agree with Terry Pratchet when he said 'witches believe in their gods like they believe in the postman'. They just are, all of them, I think there's a whole race of gods and goddesses some take notice of us, some don't.

    The mediaeval church was really worried about the contradictions in the bible, were people like Adam and Noah waiting in purgatory or hell because they weren't Christian because Christ hadn't been born when they were alive? Did they have some sort of "get out of jail free" card after Jesus's death?

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  • That’s a very good question really and I have often thought this. Adam and Eve were never mentioned after they died but the Bible does say they had sinned by eating the sacred fruits. I’m sure it also mentioned that due to them eating the fruits that woman will struggle when it comes to giving birth. Hmm. Their younger son Abel I believe is in heaven as he was always following God compared to his older brother Cain who then killed Abel. As for Noah I believe he was Jewish so maybe he’s now in a Jewish heaven, same with Moses. I think the reason why Jesus Christ was born was in hope that people would believe in him and know that they would go to heaven but I don’t think the Jewish people believe Jesus as the messiah where as Christians do. Hope this makes sense and I apologise if I have got this wrong in anyway. 

    I am C of E Christian but I don’t go to church as there aren’t any local ones which are running so I just practice in my own time and place. But I also believe in Egyptian and Greek and many more Gods and Goddesses as well and I enjoy studying other religions too. Maybe God created other Gods and Goddesses, like he chose certain people to be his prophets.