School uniforms, are they really needed?

Just watching the news and there was a piece about the cost of new school uniforms about £350 or primary and £450 for secondary schools. The government intend to limit the amount of branded items a uniform must contain, this will decrease the cost by about £50. 

How can people afford it?

Should schools be able to insist on uniforms, often from a selected supplier? Why not just say A knee length, green/grey, navy skirt or trousers a white shirt and a jumper/sweatshirt to match the skirt or trousers? 

I know many of us had horrible experiences of school, but many of us are also parents having to bear the burden of these costs. It can't be right that children can be descriminated against because their parents can't pay extortionate amounts for uniforms.

Schools often say in their prospectus's that they aim to encourage individuality, but the first thing they do is try and make everyone look the same?

Many also try and use uniform as a way of enforcing behaviour codes outside of school, like on a bus or something?

Parents
  • I thought the main reason was to prevent bullying and shame over clothes. If you let people wear what they like it becomes obvious who has money and dress sense. 

    I think it also creates a sense of belonging and unity.

    The blazers and tie used to be to prepare people for work, but it seems a bit out of place these days.

    Pricing is a bit higher than it used to be, even allowing for inflation but I am not sure what they are including in the cost.

  • Everyone knows who comes from money and who dosen't, kids aren't stupid, they know where you live, what your parents do for a living, what you wear outside of school, its like people who decide theese things think you live in a vacumn away from other kids.

    I think this idea of belonging and unity is overstated, to be honest.

    Whats wrong with the things Lotus and I suggested?

    You only belong to something if you're accepted, many of us never were accepted either by the other pupils or the teachers, so wearing a uniform dosen't change anything.

    If you know your want to work in a trade or factory, then what do you need to wear a shirt and tie for? Whats the equivalent for girls?

  • Maybe because I'm autistic I liked it.

    I didn't have to think about what to wear, I was always smart. Whereas other people played with the ties, short, long, fat and thin and awful knots,  always had it done properly. My shoes were shiny. I had rules to follow and I knew what was expected.

    I did the same at work till 2016, tailored suits, etc. it was a uniform.

    I must admit the school uniform materials, and labels, and the jumper, were not the most comfortable.

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  • Maybe because I'm autistic I liked it.

    I didn't have to think about what to wear, I was always smart. Whereas other people played with the ties, short, long, fat and thin and awful knots,  always had it done properly. My shoes were shiny. I had rules to follow and I knew what was expected.

    I did the same at work till 2016, tailored suits, etc. it was a uniform.

    I must admit the school uniform materials, and labels, and the jumper, were not the most comfortable.

Children
  • The one item my mum would not buy me were school knickers, I was bought everything else, but when I actually got to school everybody else wore hand-me-downs from older siblings or cheaper stuff from ordinary shops. I was teased for being one of the few who had a proper school uniform.

    There were rules about hair and jewelery too, we'd get sent to the science labs for acetone if we wore nail varnish, get told to wah that much off our faces if we wore make-up, sleeper earings were allowed as was a small cross. It was also very inconsistant and arbitrary, basically if a teacher didn't like what you were wearing you'd get told off, detention or have letters sent home, others ignored the same things.

    I agree that plimpsoles where horrible things that did little to protect your feet from anything. Being girls, we only played hockey and netball in winter and tennis and atheltics in summer, and of course the ever horrible gym.

    I hated wearing a uniform, I felt and looked like an overcoat on a wheelbarrow, I felt constricted and weighed down by it, I hated school and didn't want to be associated with it.