What if Harold had won at Hasting in 1066

I've just been reading a book on the Vikings which ends at 1066 with the death of Harald Hardrader, but Harold Godwineson at Stamford Bridge, just before he had to scoot back south to Hasting to meet William of Normandy and be killed. William, known as the conquerer took over and so began a new phase in Englands history, I say England as Scotland, Wales and Ireland were not part of it and Great Britain didn't happen for  several centuries.

England had been a part of massive Scandinavian trading networks that stetched from Dublin to Constantinople and maybe further and from the Med to Greenland and America, although they never really made much of an impact on America as far as we know. The church in Rome was trying to pull everyones eyes south again and was largely successful, although how successful if the Normans hadn't been around is unknowable. 

Would we be speaking a different version of English if we had no French loan words, like pork beef and lamb, pig cow and sheep are English words and were and are sill used for the animals on the hoof, rather than on the table, which gives you some idea of the power dynamics of the time.

If Harold had won and the Harrying of the North hadn't happened would we still have what are now the ruins of the great Cistercian abbeys, such Rivelaux and Fountains? Most of Yorkshire, Derbyshire, Durham and Cumbria were more or less depopulated by Williams ethnic cleansing, leaving the north as a "desert" so sought after by the Cistercians in thier early years.

What differences can you think of and what questions do you have?

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  • It's not a time period I've ever studied, but I'm always super suspicious of those "pivotal moment" takes on history. Would the outcome of one battle/ power struggle really have changed things forever? Harold was, if memory serves me, facing battle on many fronts and was far from secure in his claim to the throne. His forces had, I  think, already won an earlier battle and were exhausted by a long distance march back down south for the battle of Hastings. Even if there had been an unlikely (?) victory, would that have ended William's ambitions, or just prolonged things with the Normans eventually taking power anyway? Would the outcome of one battle on one day have changed history?

    As I said: not my time period and I'm going a lot from somewhat dubious memory here, so happy to be educated on the subject.

    Btw my mum is a big King Harold fan and we've visited his purported grave site at Waltham Abbey. My mum still darkly curses the Normans and their invasion. I have no idea why she's so bitter about it over a thousand years post invasion, but it certainly shaped our culture in the following centuries. The National Trust would be short of a few castles certainly.

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