What if Harold had won at Hasting in 1066

I've just been reading a book on the Vikings which ends at 1066 with the death of Harald Hardrader, but Harold Godwineson at Stamford Bridge, just before he had to scoot back south to Hasting to meet William of Normandy and be killed. William, known as the conquerer took over and so began a new phase in Englands history, I say England as Scotland, Wales and Ireland were not part of it and Great Britain didn't happen for  several centuries.

England had been a part of massive Scandinavian trading networks that stetched from Dublin to Constantinople and maybe further and from the Med to Greenland and America, although they never really made much of an impact on America as far as we know. The church in Rome was trying to pull everyones eyes south again and was largely successful, although how successful if the Normans hadn't been around is unknowable. 

Would we be speaking a different version of English if we had no French loan words, like pork beef and lamb, pig cow and sheep are English words and were and are sill used for the animals on the hoof, rather than on the table, which gives you some idea of the power dynamics of the time.

If Harold had won and the Harrying of the North hadn't happened would we still have what are now the ruins of the great Cistercian abbeys, such Rivelaux and Fountains? Most of Yorkshire, Derbyshire, Durham and Cumbria were more or less depopulated by Williams ethnic cleansing, leaving the north as a "desert" so sought after by the Cistercians in thier early years.

What differences can you think of and what questions do you have?

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  • I would need to research this in order to do justice to the question, but here we go anyway.

    I imagine that England and ultimately Britain would have adopted more Germanic and Scandinavian surnames, place names and terminology for things, but I don’t think the spoken and written language could have adapted that easily, so it wouldn’t have dramatically changed. I suspect that with French being widely spoken by the elites, England wouldn’t have been able to drag itself away from some French loan words and adaptations. Christianity was widespread in Scandinavia so I suspect it might have continued to thrive in England but perhaps the state church eventually becoming the Lutheran church, rather than Church of England.

    Would any of England’s extant historical or land records have survived? If the Domesday Book hadn’t been written, we mightn’t know as much as  we do today about historical place names, people and land distribution etc.  

    Would we exist as we do now? Would our ancestors met or married different people? 

    I know that if Harold had won, I wouldn’t have been standing at an exhibition in Northern France nearly 50 years ago, looking at the Bayeux Tapestry. I remember being fascinated by all the different scenes, and I could have stayed there all day if my parents had let me.

  • I would love to see the Bayeux tapestry, maybe one day!

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