You're thoughts on AI

What are your thoughts on AI? 

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  • There are many aspects to AI but the one I have been thinking about is the impact on creativity. Yes, this may be regarding the end product having no soul as opposed to that made by human hands and imagination. But I think the impact goes further. Taking into account inspiration, artistic processes, creativity, learning, developing and employing a skill as well as the finished piece - what's the effect on the ACTUAL process of human creativity? So, there might be some "imagination" involved in instructing the AI to make something, but skills and actual creativity could,  theoretically become redundant and evolve out of us. It might be that the notion of "creativity" and "imagination" change as we evolve from cave art, through to the modern day and beyond. I feel that would be a really sad progression of humanity. 

    There's something about being creative for its own sake,  in its own right. And it's often the process and the learning and the satsfaction. How can one get this by employing AI? 

    Does anyone have anything to respond with regarding this? Specifically about the process not the end? Am I on my own in considering this?

  • You're not I wrote quite a long post on how I think it will effect learning and research skills further down the thread. I guess with artistic skills people probably said the same about the invention of the camera and effects it might have. Will any AI model ever be able to to more hands on things like sewing? They probably will, people have beeninventing such "labour saving" devices for years, but many of us still like to make things ourselves, anything from cooking to painting to dressmaking, I don't think that will ever go away. I wonder if there will be some sort of creative backlash against it and whether the world become split into those that do and those that don't, a bit like cooking, there's ready meals for those who don't like or want to cook and those who love to do it and will seek out ingredients and new foods. There are already people who ask why I want to cook when I can go out to eat, or buy a ready meal, but I think there are some things that are pretty basic human drives, the hunting and gathering of food and eating and the creative need, I don't think that will ever go, but I think it may become harder. I don't see cave art as primative, or all about religion or teaching, I see it as something fundamental to human life, a mix of all those things and its that thing that AI, no matter how many data sets it's fed with will ever be able to replicate.

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  • You're not I wrote quite a long post on how I think it will effect learning and research skills further down the thread. I guess with artistic skills people probably said the same about the invention of the camera and effects it might have. Will any AI model ever be able to to more hands on things like sewing? They probably will, people have beeninventing such "labour saving" devices for years, but many of us still like to make things ourselves, anything from cooking to painting to dressmaking, I don't think that will ever go away. I wonder if there will be some sort of creative backlash against it and whether the world become split into those that do and those that don't, a bit like cooking, there's ready meals for those who don't like or want to cook and those who love to do it and will seek out ingredients and new foods. There are already people who ask why I want to cook when I can go out to eat, or buy a ready meal, but I think there are some things that are pretty basic human drives, the hunting and gathering of food and eating and the creative need, I don't think that will ever go, but I think it may become harder. I don't see cave art as primative, or all about religion or teaching, I see it as something fundamental to human life, a mix of all those things and its that thing that AI, no matter how many data sets it's fed with will ever be able to replicate.

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  • Technology isn't in itself harmful, I mean we had stone tools at one time and thats quite a technological process. But progress on the other hand is a trickier thing, we might progress from learning a simple sum, 2+2=4, to something much more advanced, but when we talk about the progression of humans from an imagined state of ignorance to a rational science led state of progress, then we need to stop and unpack what that actually means. The idea of progress as a concept started with the so called Enlightenment, although it was only really enlightened if you were a wealthy white man. I think this ongoing ideology of progress is the cause for a lot of the worlds problems today.

  • I am in agreement with everything you say. Art and its proceses are fundamental to life. I was in a shop after I had posted and wondered about all the mass produced cushions and light fittings.  Technology has mostly made these so I was wondering what the difference may be to my ideas above. I'm not sure they are that far removed really. The world possibly may split as you suggest as a possibility, but the direction of humanity always seems to be "progress" and in the long run I wonder if creativity might eventually evolve out of us. I think we will have become hybrid human robots before this happens anyway.  Crikey!!!