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Patience on Channel 4

Martyn

Did anyone watch 'Patience' on Channel 4 last night?

It's the UK remake of the French series, 'Astrid et Raphaelle', featuring a young autistic woman who works in criminal records. She has a photographic memory for cases and tries to insert herself into investigations.

Unlike the French series, the UK one (filmed in York) features autistic actors in all of the autistic roles. I've watched the French series, which I really enjoyed. 

My initial impressions of Patience is that it looks and feels quite different, and I really liked Ella Maisy Purvis as Patience. It seemed a much more natural performance than Sara Mortensen in Astrid.

It's on the Channel 4 streaming service and the second episode is on TV at 9pm tonight.

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  • Hi @Martyn et al :-)  As others have pointed out the support scene is potentially unsettling.  Nonetheless I am of the opinion that it is a presentation of several aspects of autism both in behaviours and experiences.   Perhaps that is why it is unsettling as it does resonate with autistic life.  Sometimes things need to be stirred up a bit to get things to happen.  Gratifyingly the group is able to support one another both individually and collectively.  At the risk of being clunky myself - it reflects this forum :-)

    I think the series is a good effort and I would give it 7/10 :-) with plenty signs such representations of autism are improving and can continue in that direction.

    As   highlights the view is very narrow - yes - Patience is an archetype in several senses of the word and , at the risk of being too clever about it, she is a presented as a source of wisdom conventionally and perhaps realistically unavailable to the neurotypical perspective. 

    As I analyse it, in the original Franco/Belgian program it took three series for the characters and plot to develop to roughly where the new series leaves it.   This gave more time for the viewer and the characters to develop insight and change perspective.  Also more time for some great sometimes whacky detecting and thought provoking stories :-)  This perhaps picks up on what  expresses about it being clunky and jumping forward too quickly.

    At the risk of being stereotypical about it, the new is nowhere near as sexy as the original one - hehe maybe the difference between being set in York instead of Paris!

    Also the way Patience is presented as being different in the UK version is in some ways more realistic and subtle - I reckon this has its pros and cons too.

    Overall I think that Channel 4 and the production team are to be applauded for the series however they have perhaps tried to "put a quart in a pint pot"

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  • Hi @Martyn et al :-)  As others have pointed out the support scene is potentially unsettling.  Nonetheless I am of the opinion that it is a presentation of several aspects of autism both in behaviours and experiences.   Perhaps that is why it is unsettling as it does resonate with autistic life.  Sometimes things need to be stirred up a bit to get things to happen.  Gratifyingly the group is able to support one another both individually and collectively.  At the risk of being clunky myself - it reflects this forum :-)

    I think the series is a good effort and I would give it 7/10 :-) with plenty signs such representations of autism are improving and can continue in that direction.

    As   highlights the view is very narrow - yes - Patience is an archetype in several senses of the word and , at the risk of being too clever about it, she is a presented as a source of wisdom conventionally and perhaps realistically unavailable to the neurotypical perspective. 

    As I analyse it, in the original Franco/Belgian program it took three series for the characters and plot to develop to roughly where the new series leaves it.   This gave more time for the viewer and the characters to develop insight and change perspective.  Also more time for some great sometimes whacky detecting and thought provoking stories :-)  This perhaps picks up on what  expresses about it being clunky and jumping forward too quickly.

    At the risk of being stereotypical about it, the new is nowhere near as sexy as the original one - hehe maybe the difference between being set in York instead of Paris!

    Also the way Patience is presented as being different in the UK version is in some ways more realistic and subtle - I reckon this has its pros and cons too.

    Overall I think that Channel 4 and the production team are to be applauded for the series however they have perhaps tried to "put a quart in a pint pot"

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  • in reply to Phased

    Could you explain what a quart in a pint pot means please?

  • in reply to Phased

    I think you might be right, Phased, a quart in a pint pot will always be an issue when trying to explain in a drama, the persective of once character.

    I've met so many men like Detective Bea's sidekick and her boss too, typical NT's in thier superior attitudes towards anyone a bit different. They make perfect foils for Bea and Patience, I hope people concentrate on thier interactions with Patience as much as they Patience's with everyone else. By watching the two guys one can see how much non verbal stuff is going on and all the micro-aggressions, assumptions and suspicions ND's face.