A hill to die on

One of our local SSI's in under threat from developers who want to cut down most of the trees that are home to endangered Red Squirrels and full of lots of other wildlife. They want to build a holiday park with a load of lodges, gym, sauna, poll and restaurant, they very kindly say that local swill be able to use these facilities without having to stay at the park, most locals kindly say words with lots of FF's to the developers. Not only will this development destroy a local amneity thats also a big draw with tourists wanting to watch the wildlife, but there's been no thought for local infrastructure. Our roads are already at breaking point, and with the port at Holyhead becoming a freeport roads will be overwhelmed. What about water and sewerage, waste and the quality of life for those who already live here? The people behind this always say it will bring jobs, but what kind of jobs? Will they be proper, well paid and permanent jobs, or will they be seasonal, zero-hours and minimum wage? We have plenty of those already and local people are already priced out, we have problems attracting workers anyway for the existing businesses serving the tourism industry.

Like many local people I intend to protest if they get to the stage of chopping trees down, I know we probably won't stop it, that we will end up arrested, and all that goes with it, we may end up physically injured too. But this sort of thing has to stop, this is my hill and choose to die on it.

  • This was all set in motion long before a Labour government came to power in the summer. There has been a recent high court case and protest has been going on for years. Our previous MP, (a Tory) refused to get involved with it as she didn't want to clash with a matter that she saw as purely one for the local council.

  • national government has nothing to do with it

    What I was referring to there was the government set the laws and guidelines on planning regulations which the local councils then enact.

    The new government have liften many restrictions on building anything on a lot of areas that were previously protected because of pressures from business and housing demand.

  • It's sad to see such a lovely island being swamped by tourists that don't respect it and the people who live there. 

    Hopefully things won't get worse, but I think they need to stop any more developments or over time it will only have a negative effect, slowly chipping away at the place.

    I've got so many fond memories of Anglesey, from the first time I went there as a kid to all the times since, finding a nice quiet spot away from anyone and enjoying the peace. I hope it doesn't get ruined.

  • Yes it is Penrhos and yes tourism does put a strain on local people, we get really fed up of being told that English people don't have to follow Welsh laws because they're English and the laws only apply to the Welsh. We get fed up of being treated like second class citizens who exist only to serve the tourist industry, we get fed up with the litter, the badly behaved dogs and children and as for the adults, well many need locking up!

    The port at Holyhead will reopen in part over the next few days, so there will be another build up of traffic, the Gods alone know what will happen when it becomes a freeport and the traffic increases. There isn't the physical space to improve the roads and other infrastructure, Holyhead is a narrow strip of land surrounded by hills made up of slate, the whole of Anglesey is an outcrop of the Eyrie mountains, short of blowing half of it up I don't know what they can actually do.

  • Wage total war, or just let them do it.

    Waging total war if done intelligently doesn't need to be violent, but you do need to be determined as a group and talk regualrly.

    It costs about £100 to file a case in the local court. The law can be used at the very least to force a tactical or strategic pause in their activities, so if you have access to a law student, maybe via zoom, you can get access to the law and figure out what sort of case you need to bring. Sometimes you don't need to win, just the aggravation of being a defendant weakens the opponent enough so that one of your other tactics actually brings them down. 

    Remember that a lock that has been treated adequately with superglue will keep both YOU and also the operator from using a piece of equipment. Especially if after the door lock has been defeated it still can't be started. 

    You might need to learn about, and acquire some "caltrops". Anyone with a grinder and a welder can make them easily enough.. Loud and visual protests should eb a distraction to focus attention there whilst you do crippling tings here...

    Make it uneconomic and slow to do anything. And stop them felling the trees for goodness sake.

    Trees reduce CO2!!!

  • I saw a news article about Penrhos, I'm guessing?

    It feels like the area generally is busier these days, i guess that's good for some businesses, but must put a strain on local people. As a tourist myself it sounds odd to say I don't like tourists, they don't respect the people or the places they visit and it's sad to see them spoilt by the influx.

    I don't see the need to build these holiday developments in areas of SSI, it shouldn't be allowed. They should be protecting them and allowing respectful visits rather than profiteering.

    I hope you're successful in stopping it and raising awareness.

  • This isn't building houses on the green belt or anything like that, this is building yet another holiday park, national government has nothing to do with it, nor even the Sennedd. This is a purely local descision, despite the opposition to it including King Charles, when he was Prince of Wales, WIlliam Prince of Wales, Sir David Attenborough, Chris Packham and many others. The site is already a local ammenity, one that dosen't push local people to the margins.

    There have already been some acts of direct action, GPS locators have been put in the ground near trees that will be felled, have been oiked out and chucked in the sea. I'm sure if they go ahead with it, it will turn into a costly, high profile mess.

  • YOUR quality of life isn't under threat...

    Neither is mine in that way, but I feel "empathy" (I think!) for her situation.

  • One of our local SSI's in under threat from developers

    With the government pushing for building on the green belt now this is most likely going to go ahead.

    While it sucks, it is "progress" and it is only going to accellerate until most green areas are gone in urban areas.

    They will deal with the load on services and amenities after everything is build - once there are lots of traffic jams, pot holes, low water pressure etc then they will increase council tax to make you all pay for the upgrades and you have to wait then sit through the inconvenience of months or years of road works.

    The classic way for developers to get away with this is to promise counsellors a seat on the board of the company when their term in office ends - it happens so often there really should be a law against it.

    Since it is all about the money for them, is right that a carefully thought out process of financially crippling protest is the way to make them back out when they are way over budget and not even broke ground. Just do it in a way that you don't get caught.

  • Go read Sun Tzu's "art of war"

    I choose to follow his quote "Be where your enemy is not.”

    I'll be in bed with a nice cuppa!

  • To quote a fun little book about the end of the world: “You don't have to test everything to destruction just to see if you made it right.” (Good Omens by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman)

    I don’t know why we humans have to do that, but what I do know is that every battle for this “pale blue dot” (Carl Sagan) is worth fighting. I’m wishing you all the best of luck! Please look after yourself though.

  • Builders expanding foam with the long pipe will after careful application as far into the exhaust sytem as you can get (late at night in the dark when no one is around might be a tiem when one can aply it without interrruption) will render any large earth moving type machines quite inoperable...  

    Obviously, one should check ones local laws and make sure that this non-violent protest method is legal in your jurisdiction, if you decide  to employ it as a part of your protest, but for anyoen who has a pressing need to make a large engine unstartable for security reasons perhaps, in a reversible but definitely time and resurce consuming way, that's how you do it. Make sure you use enough of the urethane foam, with the longest applicator you can find...

    Always protest responsibly, but effectively.

    This is the 121 century and placards and sticks and stones and petrol bombs do not work as well as they used to. The weapons that count now are time and money. You cost them enough time and money and they will give up. 

    Go read Sun Tzu's "art of war" (It's tiny, and a real good read for this sort of thing).

    Protesting and getting arrested is dead lame, get together with local people and brainstorm ways of making it as difficult and time consuming to for the opposition to do anything.

    Brains wins these things now, not brawn. It's all about winning propaganda war, and wasting their time and resources when you are battling a large and powerful opponent. When negotiating I always like to have worked out the path I don't want to go down as well as the paths that I do.

    Good luck. Remember the 1980's when Wales fairly sucessfully repellled the English invasion?

    My friend Waseem's family farm in Wales caught fire mysteriously during that time, forcing them to move to Birmingham where the liviing is easier.. Only happened because some Welsh people really wanted wales to remain Welsh, and were prepared to do more than "appealng to higher authority". As far as I am aware they didn't hurt anyone just made it impossible to "settle in". 

  • A Site of Special Scinetific Interest.

    Desmond, this isn't a national descion, but one made by our local council, a bunch who nobody really seems to know, are mostly independent and probably more interested in lining their own pockets than actually being useful. The freeport was the result of the Tories and our ex MP hassling for for it, now she's gone but I don't see the new one doing anythng useful.

  • That's what Starmer's lot REALLY think about the Environment.

    It's not Ecology, it's a State-Run Industry.