Politically disillusioned

I'm becoming increasingly politically disillusioned. Tories? - treat the disabled and vulnerable like crap. Labour? worryingly silent about helping the disabled and vulnerable. Lib Dems ?- They willingly went into a coalition with the Tories. Corbynite left?- All too willing to sacrifice the disabled and vulnerable in a quixotic quest for a socialist utopia.

It's about making the least bad choice. That's Labour. I want better than voting for the 'least bad choice'.

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  • Afternoon FM,

    Well, I'd be surprised to hear if ANYONE in this country was satisfied with the status quo at the moment OR if they were "excited and pleased" about the imminent political landscape either.

    "In a democracy, people get the leadership they deserve."  It is this truism (as I see it) that makes me most sad.  I cannot focus my disillusionment on the political system or politicians themselves (generally).........its the current populous and the way that "we" have collectively opted to live and operate that makes me sad.  Foolish & short-sighted.

  • Well, I'd be surprised to hear if ANYONE in this country was satisfied with the status quo at the moment

    That'll be the people with money who benefit from the unequal society. Sure they're quite happy with the status quo.  

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  • [Understanding why it is that politicians seem to not do anything, and why autistic people seem to be viewed as lesser, are my jam, and my other jam. You’ve hit on my “special” interest.]

    Anyone who isn’t considered lesser, by our society, is happy with the status quo. That’s why there are so many groups claiming oppression, and becoming more active.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/oppression

    It’s our society, that needs to change. Politicians cannot help us, and they do not want to. When society comes to understand those they deem lesser, such as non-white, non-male, non-neurotypical, non-heterosexual, etc., but, primarily, non-wealthy, beings, it is able to recognise our humanity, and treat us as equal. Our politicians will not help us, because we do not have the ability to buy them. The same is true for non-white, non-male, non-heterosexual, etc., beings.

    Wealth is the primary form of being a lesser being, because wealth can exclude an individual from these various, identical forms of being non-human. It’s also through our lack of wealth that we are all united, not as our individual labels, but as non-human, and, therefore, not deserving of society’s consideration. It’s through the fact that society views us all as lacking humanity, and being undeserving of consideration, that we are all equal.

    I have come to understand this through reading, and experiencing the NHS’ inability to help me, and refusal to recognise my autism. It has completely destroyed my trust in any government institution’s empathy for those that society views as unworthy of equal treatment. I wonder how many autistic people, non-white, non-British, “foreign” people, female people, Muslim, Jewish, or any other ungodly people, any people who are not like what our society views as ideal, have died due to mistreatment from any of our institutions.

    If I’m saying politicians serve those wealthy enough to buy them, why would those wealthy enough to buy them, who also own major media companies in our country, report on the failures of their property, our nation’s political leaders, with any honesty? Why make the politician, who you have purchased, less able to direct the nation’s wealth to your company without the attention of the people? Why do something so silly, and reveal that our lives, the lives of the rest of the country, who are not rich enough to buy the loyalty of our political leaders, are not our own, but a manufactured product of a society that is not for us?

    If this sounds like communism, that’s because communism is clearly inspired by the identical core beliefs of the three Abrahamic religions, Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. Humans are social creatures. We need each other. We all need help. We should not be left to die from our mental disorders, which are a result of trying to integrate into an unaccepting society, because we are born with brains that are different, but still human. Nobody should have to experience that.

    (I don’t mean to impose politics onto you, but the political nature of being autistic, in our current society, is brutally imposed on all of us. This is not something we should ignore. There are many autistic people who cannot handle our society, who have taken their own lives. Members of our community, our natural, human, autistic community, are being killed by the cold-hearted, hard-headedness of our society, which leads it to refuse to acknowledge our struggles, and provide us the help we need, in order to operate as any other person does.)

  • PS....It's wild fire season - the crowds heading in have all brought disposable BBQ's with them, and the grass in this field is TINDER dry and VERY long.  I'm slinging my stuff over me'shoulder and headin on out - see you elsewhere soon.

  • Good.  You bring me joy Pegg.  Thank you.

  • I can't give up entirely Number, although many times I've wished to. That's not in my DNA either, annoyingly..

  • Yea - I hear you - and I don't disagree with you either.

    I try to steer clear of political discourse here - too depressing & inflammatory for such a diverse and generally collegiate bunch of folk - I don't want to accidentally start a wild fire !

    One of my special interests is the study of past civilisations on this planet over the past 5 millennia or so.

    Accordingly, I would ask that a young soul such as yourself, DOES hold on to "hope" please.....it is the one thing that we can ALL get behind !  If we become entirely hopeless - well - you can imagine !

    "Hope Springs Eternal."

    Enjoy the sunshine (but try not to think too deeply about why it is approx 30 degrees in the UK half way through September !!!!!!!!!)    [And yes, I know it is an Iberian Plume for anyone who thinks I meant that literally - rather than just "in the round."  Meteorology is another of my special interests.]

  • In that case I expect they're not wrong, pretty much everything is broken. It's hard to find something that isn't. Societal systems and institutions we've taken for granted, that in fact took many decades of work and political struggle to effect have been so far eroded in recent years that they're collapsing. Really difficult to think about what comes next. 

    Britannia Unchained, if we re-elect the Tories. Most are blissfully unaware, of anything really. By the time they wake up, it'll be too late. 

    A cheery topic for a sunny afternoon... I loathe politics, and being involved with people, but feel obliged to be involved, because the situation is so dire. I don't hold out much hope though, honestly. 

  • Not the ones that I speak to.....they seem fearful that the system (their system, if you like) has become broken beyond repair.....there is a pervasive stench of fear and frustration wherever I look.