Is Santa silly?

I'm writing this as someone who doesn't celebrate Christmas in either a religious or cultural sense. From a young age I was told that Santa doesn't exist and is just a silly hoax that parents play on their kids. It never affected me in any bad way and neither was I expecting to find wrapped presents mysteriously appear on the morning of the 25th day of December. If anybody in my family received a Christmas gift then it was usually opened on the same day. A downside to this is that even from the age of 4 or 5 I went round telling kids at school "Father Christmas isn't real, it's all made up, your parents buy Christmas presents from the shops" which often resulted in me getting into trouble whenever they got upset. I once had to report to the head teacher after completely reducing a classmate to tears.

Is the concept of Santa a silly nonsense or is it part of the joys of childhood? Do you tell your own children the truth or would you prefer to go along with the cultural norm? Is pleasing one's classmates more important than knowing the truth? What about children at school who follow different religions so do not celebrate Christmas - where do they fit in?

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  • IntenseWorld said:
    Nothing to do with comfort zone.  I was already well aware that it's a Christian celebration (and I have already said further up the thread that I do not belong to any religion).

    You haven't taken on board my previous comments. In #83 I stated that the Santa lie is pervasive in Britain and is followed by millions of people who are atheist or only weakly Christian. It is effectively part of British popular culture rather than religion. I also stated in #34 that there are many Christians who do not embrace the Santa lie and atheists who do embrace it.

    I find it intriguing why atheists have the desire to participate in religious celebrations, and that includes Christmas complete with the Santa lie.

    ...I'll tell you what, let's just get rid of all fables, stories, yarns, folklore, mythology, campside tales, religion, beliefs or wishes that ever existed and live like imaginationless robots.  There, sorted.  Simples.  (squeak) Foot in Mouth

    I can see a big difference between these and the Santa lie but maybe you can't. Very few parents tell their children that fiction and fairy stories that are known to be untrue are true but millions of them lie about Santa to their children.

    none of which can provide any hard facts because the result of telling this lie/myth to children can only be seen in their adulthood and as yet there is no study of adults.

    There are definitely some studies around about people who don't celebrate Christmas for reasons other than following another religion. I have come across a few 'scrooges' from time to time who say that Christmas is really just a waste of money.

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  • IntenseWorld said:
    Nothing to do with comfort zone.  I was already well aware that it's a Christian celebration (and I have already said further up the thread that I do not belong to any religion).

    You haven't taken on board my previous comments. In #83 I stated that the Santa lie is pervasive in Britain and is followed by millions of people who are atheist or only weakly Christian. It is effectively part of British popular culture rather than religion. I also stated in #34 that there are many Christians who do not embrace the Santa lie and atheists who do embrace it.

    I find it intriguing why atheists have the desire to participate in religious celebrations, and that includes Christmas complete with the Santa lie.

    ...I'll tell you what, let's just get rid of all fables, stories, yarns, folklore, mythology, campside tales, religion, beliefs or wishes that ever existed and live like imaginationless robots.  There, sorted.  Simples.  (squeak) Foot in Mouth

    I can see a big difference between these and the Santa lie but maybe you can't. Very few parents tell their children that fiction and fairy stories that are known to be untrue are true but millions of them lie about Santa to their children.

    none of which can provide any hard facts because the result of telling this lie/myth to children can only be seen in their adulthood and as yet there is no study of adults.

    There are definitely some studies around about people who don't celebrate Christmas for reasons other than following another religion. I have come across a few 'scrooges' from time to time who say that Christmas is really just a waste of money.

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