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Pronouns...

Today I learned that one of my adult child's Friends Lorna now goes by the name Loz and identifies as male.  

Apparently if  am not to cause offence I now need to rejig a couple of decades of being vaguely aware of this person as a very feminine looking girl through to young woman and refer to Loz as HE in conversation from now on.

Loz's boyfriend apparently has had to make psychological adjustments that make my issues look trivial in comparison, but apparently he will do that for love.... 

Funny old world innit?

I will say this: The next time my o/h decides to crack wise at my expense, we'll see how she likes being effectively in a lesbian relationship for a while.. The cheapest way to go trans I've figured is to also change my faith at the same time. No biggie, we worship the same god, just in a diverse way.... Then al I need is a cheap and cheerful bhurka to chuck over the "cargo pants and tee", and the job is done! 

(I think I'll keep that one "in the hopper" for if my personal war of the sexes battlefield situation demands "special weapons" one day) We seem to be in a period of detente right now, so maybe I'll hold off ordering the bhurka...

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  • Can I just play devils advocate for a minute, whilst every subject should be on the table, some can become very emotive. There was a discussion about 9 months ago relating to gender and transgender identity, it ended in a complete ‘ bun fight’, some of the people involved ended up leaving the site. On both sides, people will have very strong opinions, we struggle with the rest of the world, this is our safe place, please don’t start biting chunks out of each other. 

  • I think everyone here is too nice and reasonable to not cool down and find common ground. Maybe unfair to ‘weaponise’ Dogtooth’s parting words, but… ‘keep looking after each other.’ I think we will.

    Change is always scarier for some than others. But we’re headed as a species  to the same collective place - ever greater diversity and acceptance. Its inevitable. But it requires pacing. That means shifting ratios of people on each ‘side’ (to oversimplify a spectrum) over a longer time than well live to see get wrapped up. In the meantime, let’s engage as politely as we can over any separations in perspective. I’ve seen much worse attempts on that front  than this thread! 

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  • I think everyone here is too nice and reasonable to not cool down and find common ground. Maybe unfair to ‘weaponise’ Dogtooth’s parting words, but… ‘keep looking after each other.’ I think we will.

    Change is always scarier for some than others. But we’re headed as a species  to the same collective place - ever greater diversity and acceptance. Its inevitable. But it requires pacing. That means shifting ratios of people on each ‘side’ (to oversimplify a spectrum) over a longer time than well live to see get wrapped up. In the meantime, let’s engage as politely as we can over any separations in perspective. I’ve seen much worse attempts on that front  than this thread! 

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