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Pronouns...

Today I learned that one of my adult child's Friends Lorna now goes by the name Loz and identifies as male.  

Apparently if  am not to cause offence I now need to rejig a couple of decades of being vaguely aware of this person as a very feminine looking girl through to young woman and refer to Loz as HE in conversation from now on.

Loz's boyfriend apparently has had to make psychological adjustments that make my issues look trivial in comparison, but apparently he will do that for love.... 

Funny old world innit?

I will say this: The next time my o/h decides to crack wise at my expense, we'll see how she likes being effectively in a lesbian relationship for a while.. The cheapest way to go trans I've figured is to also change my faith at the same time. No biggie, we worship the same god, just in a diverse way.... Then al I need is a cheap and cheerful bhurka to chuck over the "cargo pants and tee", and the job is done! 

(I think I'll keep that one "in the hopper" for if my personal war of the sexes battlefield situation demands "special weapons" one day) We seem to be in a period of detente right now, so maybe I'll hold off ordering the bhurka...

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  • Can I just play devils advocate for a minute, whilst every subject should be on the table, some can become very emotive. There was a discussion about 9 months ago relating to gender and transgender identity, it ended in a complete ‘ bun fight’, some of the people involved ended up leaving the site. On both sides, people will have very strong opinions, we struggle with the rest of the world, this is our safe place, please don’t start biting chunks out of each other. 

  • It's not each other it's me, and people are trying to put words and ideas into my mouth which simply are not there.

    If just one of you notes the irrationality going on here, and then asks "where does it come from"? Then I didn't waste my time.

    I'm done explaining myself and defending myself, people here clearly know my mind better than I do. 

  • And can people not see the humour in my proposed mistreatment of my long suffering G/f? 

    There's a problem here alright, but it isn't my attitude towards my fellow men, much as a couple of very committed people are attempting to reframe it...

    There is a lot of intolerance in this thread, but none of it is coming from MY i/p address...

    We really could do with a separate section perhaps a "naughty step" where threads that attract outrage can go for later examination by the participants when cooler heads prevail. Maybe even those who take offence could click a button, and the offending point of view instantly vanish from public view?

    Then when someone says something that someone with a different view point thinks means the OP is really saying something else, you can simply edit them away without bothering the mods... 

    Yeah, I'm starting to get a bit sarky now, so it's time to follow my own "Forum Survival advice", and quit the keyboard. Those who are upset by me or this thread would do well to go and find that "forum survival guide" post, it was written specifically to help people deal more painlessly & sucessfully with people like me...

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  • And can people not see the humour in my proposed mistreatment of my long suffering G/f? 

    There's a problem here alright, but it isn't my attitude towards my fellow men, much as a couple of very committed people are attempting to reframe it...

    There is a lot of intolerance in this thread, but none of it is coming from MY i/p address...

    We really could do with a separate section perhaps a "naughty step" where threads that attract outrage can go for later examination by the participants when cooler heads prevail. Maybe even those who take offence could click a button, and the offending point of view instantly vanish from public view?

    Then when someone says something that someone with a different view point thinks means the OP is really saying something else, you can simply edit them away without bothering the mods... 

    Yeah, I'm starting to get a bit sarky now, so it's time to follow my own "Forum Survival advice", and quit the keyboard. Those who are upset by me or this thread would do well to go and find that "forum survival guide" post, it was written specifically to help people deal more painlessly & sucessfully with people like me...

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  • I would really rather hope my comments come over as the constructive criticism for future posts they are meant to be, rather than a scolding. I undestood the the blatant absurdist humour in your post but sadly too often (usually on other platforms mind you, *cough damn you Twitter *cough*) people will "unironically" say fully ridiculous things with their full bigotted chest. And I do see how easily those that are unused to your manner could get the complete wrong end of that stick. Which is sad because when that happens the whole situation turns toxic and can hurt everyone involved.
    I know these things are new for you, but I've never know you to act in bad faith on here, and I wouldn't want to patronize you by overly sugar coating things either.