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Moderation, respect, and offensive language.

Scorpion0x17

I find the following post deeply concerning:

Autismtwo,

Please stop this. You have no business demanding that Rachel uses words in a particular way. You have already been asked recently to treat other users with respect. This is your last warning. If you do this again, your posts will be moderated, requiring approval from me, or one of the other moderators, before they are published.

When you signed up, you agreed to obey rule 1:

"Don’t post messages that are offensive or insulting to other users."

You made your own views about Rachel's words very clear. This has now gone well beyond that, into aggression and harassment.

I know you don't like the way the NAS does things. I have never censored your opinions about us. But when you harass other users like this, we will intervene.

If you wish to discuss this privately, please email community.manager@nas.org.uk.

Yours,

Alex R - mod

A post was made that used language that several members, who have clearly stated that they themselves are on the autistic spectrum in numerous posts, found to be offensive and dengrating to those on the spectrum.

When this was pointed out it was dismissed out of hand by the original poster, as if the use of such language did not matter.

The above quoted post clearly takes the side of the original poster, and thus, by implication, condones the use of that language.

Should not a representative of the NAS at the very least remain neutral in such matters (reprimanding both those who denigrate people on the spectrum and those who speak out against it too strongly)?

Should an NAS representative not also be aware of the nature of the traits common amongst many on the spectrum and, in particular, their propensity to use very honest, direct, and sometimes too blunt, language without meaning any disrespect or offence?

Should a representative of the NAS, in fact, not actively discourage any language that denigrates those on the spectrum, not matter how mild the nature of the denigration?

Are these not things that every representative of the NAS, no matter their position, or role, should do, and bear in mind, at all times when dealing with the public, or anyone else, be they on the spectrum, or not?

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  • autismtwo said:

    Very good Alex, just blame me and then talk openly on the forum as if I am a non-person, Alex the judge, jury and hangman of autismtwo.

    Scorpian and others thankyou for your concern and support as you can see the issue clearly as you have autism,, but you are wasting your time talking about this with Alex and Rachel as they are blind to the issue of calling a person or your own son crazy,, obvious insulting people with autism using insensitive language is okay in there world,, at least if I am over expressive by being too direct in communication it is due to my autism,, no hard feelings mend.

    quote Alex"when they wish to challenge someone else's behaviour, they do so politely and respectfully."... I would never use the word challenge ? and alex politely and respectfully,, you are hypocrit ! I find your posts to be direct, one sided and offensive.

    Autismtwo,

    Thank you for moving this discussion to this thread, which as Scorpion and Longman have correctly observed, is a more appropriate place for it. You have had plenty of opportunity to respond, both here and by email, as I suggested. You did not acknowledge any of my earlier warnings about your conduct. The only reason I've been talking about you in the third person on this thread is that you did not start this discussion, and I was responding to Scorpion, who did. I don't think it's reasonable to say that you have not been given a hearing.

    I, also, am a user of this community. If I were to be strict about it, I could treat this response - describing me as a hypocrite - as a breach of my earlier warning to you not to attack other users. I won't, because that wouldn't be fair; as moderator, I expect a certain amount of criticism.

    I'm curious about your choice of the word 'blind', though. You seem quite happy to use it - a term describing a disability - as a term of criticism directed at me and rachellouise (who hasn't returned). By your reasoning, I should be treating that also as a breach of Rule 1 of the community, just as you insist I should have responded to rachellouise. Can I use this as an example to show that I really am not here to police people's everyday use of language? I'm not going to take any action about it; but I think it's worth pointing out.

    Like many users here, I don't talk directly about whether I am on the spectrum or not. But I think it's unfair to characterise this as a conflict between those who are on the spectrum and those who are not. I know you like to present things that way - hence your thread about declaring war on neurotypical people, which I did not touch. You really don't know who is and is not on the spectrum, any more than I do. I can only moderate based on people's actions here.

    I notice you've started another thread criticising the NAS. I'll do my best to bring it to the attention of my colleagues in a positive way.

    Yours,

    Alex R - mod

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  • autismtwo said:

    Very good Alex, just blame me and then talk openly on the forum as if I am a non-person, Alex the judge, jury and hangman of autismtwo.

    Scorpian and others thankyou for your concern and support as you can see the issue clearly as you have autism,, but you are wasting your time talking about this with Alex and Rachel as they are blind to the issue of calling a person or your own son crazy,, obvious insulting people with autism using insensitive language is okay in there world,, at least if I am over expressive by being too direct in communication it is due to my autism,, no hard feelings mend.

    quote Alex"when they wish to challenge someone else's behaviour, they do so politely and respectfully."... I would never use the word challenge ? and alex politely and respectfully,, you are hypocrit ! I find your posts to be direct, one sided and offensive.

    Autismtwo,

    Thank you for moving this discussion to this thread, which as Scorpion and Longman have correctly observed, is a more appropriate place for it. You have had plenty of opportunity to respond, both here and by email, as I suggested. You did not acknowledge any of my earlier warnings about your conduct. The only reason I've been talking about you in the third person on this thread is that you did not start this discussion, and I was responding to Scorpion, who did. I don't think it's reasonable to say that you have not been given a hearing.

    I, also, am a user of this community. If I were to be strict about it, I could treat this response - describing me as a hypocrite - as a breach of my earlier warning to you not to attack other users. I won't, because that wouldn't be fair; as moderator, I expect a certain amount of criticism.

    I'm curious about your choice of the word 'blind', though. You seem quite happy to use it - a term describing a disability - as a term of criticism directed at me and rachellouise (who hasn't returned). By your reasoning, I should be treating that also as a breach of Rule 1 of the community, just as you insist I should have responded to rachellouise. Can I use this as an example to show that I really am not here to police people's everyday use of language? I'm not going to take any action about it; but I think it's worth pointing out.

    Like many users here, I don't talk directly about whether I am on the spectrum or not. But I think it's unfair to characterise this as a conflict between those who are on the spectrum and those who are not. I know you like to present things that way - hence your thread about declaring war on neurotypical people, which I did not touch. You really don't know who is and is not on the spectrum, any more than I do. I can only moderate based on people's actions here.

    I notice you've started another thread criticising the NAS. I'll do my best to bring it to the attention of my colleagues in a positive way.

    Yours,

    Alex R - mod

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