Should people with Aspergers or others on the autistic spectrum have children?

I've got it mildly (officially anyway, I think I might have been wrongly diagnosed, but that's a different story) and it's only got better as I've got older (some experts do think that it can actually go away as you get older, but again, another story). Even so, it has caused me some problems, especially when I was younger. I have no doubt that my life would've been easier without it. Anyway, I sort of want children but sort of don't, for a few reasons, one of which would be giving it to them (if I've got it, perhaps I'm just a little odd lol). What are the chances that they'd get it, and (this is a bit controversial I know) do you think people with it who have children are selfish? It can and does cause an awful lot of misery.

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  • Hi! I'm sorry you feel you were wrongly diagnosed. Perhaps you are experiencing something different than perceiving and reasoning with an "autistic wiring" (as some call it). It's just a different way of processing and engaging with the world. Some individuals suggest our strengths were very important for early humans, being hyper sensory and with our bi-lateral detail processing. Like any natural "talent", all types of being human require disciplines to grow and nurture strengths. 

    Have children! Although I might suggest finding someone who respects and values you to have them with :) Children need to feel understood and safe to thrive regardless if they have an autistic brain-type, dyslexia (and are actually quite gifted at more kinetic things) or full speed ADHD and (like several of my friends with this) become professionals in the music industry. 

    I'm autistic. In my 40s. Had my parents been a bit better I may have gone even further than I did, but I work in sound and post production. I might suggest a good part of the entertainment industry is #ActuallyAutistic

  • Yeah, it's a bit of a long story, I went into it on my other question, but they were saying at one point maybe I don't have it (one of the doctors even said that he was fairly certain that I don't, but for some reason the diagnosis remained), plus I've done my own research and I really don't think I've got it. I'm looking to get the diagnosis removed. But if I do have it, I don't think that it'd be fair to risk giving it to any potential kids. I have it mildly (either that or I'm just a bit odd lol) but it has affected me negatively in a few ways, especially when I was younger. Is it fair to perhaps pass this on to my children?

  • I'm not sure if you realise when you say this, but potentially you might be suggesting eugenics is OK? The problem is this. A whole world of humans exist. Should someone in an economically difficult situation not have children because they're not contributing to society and if they're malfunctioning in some way one person sees as poor or pointless, then whatever is happening there genetically they'll pass on to their kids. 

    What about the Duke of Edinburgh? His mother was autistic, he had very clear autistic traits. Should he have had children?

    How about individuals with diseases that kill around 45. Or 60. Whats the cut-off point. The problem is with this manner of thinking, is there's a value attributed to human Worth - a "playing G-d". I'm autistic. Should I not have had my son? He's dyslexic, is a classically trained musician and is quite keen on the nuances between ND and NT. He's 25 and thinks my 'autistic' traits are adorable. But, I found ways to overcome trauma, though. I have a feeling your ideas about Autistic individuals might not be about their amazing qualities as humans but the impact of a debilitating society, one which they're not coded to play in, but then also we don't have to worry about being hypnotised by media or adverts. If we are, it's quite easy for us to reason out of that and shake it off. 

    There's no 'mild' or 'severe'. You might have a few traits which fall on the Autism Spectrum, they either do or don't. You may or may not have additional disabilities or comorbidity, just like a Neurotypical. You may or may not be a hyper-phant, or able to identify all the nuances in cheese or whisky. You may or may not be able to hyper-focus on a task to completion and forget to eat. Understand that the world needs Autistic individuals. We have always existed and will continue or the human race would die out for lack of someone to stand up and accidentally point out the snake oil or get stuck on a problem and accidentally discover particles or not come out of a studio for a week and produce the sort of music that brings a tribe together. We are not a sub-species. We are human and important. Restructure 'mild' to mean untapped potential and undisciplined skills. 

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  • I'm not sure if you realise when you say this, but potentially you might be suggesting eugenics is OK? The problem is this. A whole world of humans exist. Should someone in an economically difficult situation not have children because they're not contributing to society and if they're malfunctioning in some way one person sees as poor or pointless, then whatever is happening there genetically they'll pass on to their kids. 

    What about the Duke of Edinburgh? His mother was autistic, he had very clear autistic traits. Should he have had children?

    How about individuals with diseases that kill around 45. Or 60. Whats the cut-off point. The problem is with this manner of thinking, is there's a value attributed to human Worth - a "playing G-d". I'm autistic. Should I not have had my son? He's dyslexic, is a classically trained musician and is quite keen on the nuances between ND and NT. He's 25 and thinks my 'autistic' traits are adorable. But, I found ways to overcome trauma, though. I have a feeling your ideas about Autistic individuals might not be about their amazing qualities as humans but the impact of a debilitating society, one which they're not coded to play in, but then also we don't have to worry about being hypnotised by media or adverts. If we are, it's quite easy for us to reason out of that and shake it off. 

    There's no 'mild' or 'severe'. You might have a few traits which fall on the Autism Spectrum, they either do or don't. You may or may not have additional disabilities or comorbidity, just like a Neurotypical. You may or may not be a hyper-phant, or able to identify all the nuances in cheese or whisky. You may or may not be able to hyper-focus on a task to completion and forget to eat. Understand that the world needs Autistic individuals. We have always existed and will continue or the human race would die out for lack of someone to stand up and accidentally point out the snake oil or get stuck on a problem and accidentally discover particles or not come out of a studio for a week and produce the sort of music that brings a tribe together. We are not a sub-species. We are human and important. Restructure 'mild' to mean untapped potential and undisciplined skills. 

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  • But what variables are unknown? If the condition only arises from a lifestyle. If a condition can be overwritten with a partners DNA. 

    What I should have lead with is this: I live next door to a Geneticist. He has said we all have the same genetics potential and everyone has the (he adds massive quotes because it's becoming silly now) "Autistic Gene". It's a different way of using the brain. In fact, another chap I know has been micro-dosing on mushrooms to experience and perceive life the way I do. He hadn't realised even his thoughts, created by language in Neurotypical fashion, were created for him by society. Mine haven't been.  

  • I'm not suggesting that we be banned from having children, but perhaps we should think twice? I do think that yes, perhaps if people are too poor to have children, that they should refrain from doing so. And I certainly think that it is cruel to knowingly have children if you have a fatal hereditary condition.