How do I get undiagnosed with Asperger's?

Hi, I'm a 24 YO man. I was diagnosed as a child and would like to get undiagnosed for a couple of reasons, firstly job prospects (I've always wanted to join the Army, which you can't do if you've got Asperger's, but you can if you can get yourself undiagnosed). Also, and I don't want to offend anyone, but I don't want the stigma of having it, I'd rather officially not have it, even if I do really, which I'm not sure about. They were saying at one point that I might not have it. Again, not trying to offend anyone, but I'm not one of these people who is proud of it, I respect other people's opinions, but to be honest I personally find having it embarrassing, even though I don't tell people, and I'd like to be "normal", at least officially. Anyway, how would I go about doing this, and how easy/difficult would it be? Thanks in advance.

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  • not sure you can, due to the fact they say theres no cure and its lifelong... how will you explain that to get undiagnosed? that you magically found a cure? theyd want you to explain the cure and trademark it and give you a nobel peace price first lol

  • plus if you have autistic traits it doesnt matter if your diagnosed or not..... they rejected me and im not diagnosed.... the interview is like a interrogation of your life and your personality... they will find your autistic traits even if your not diagnosed, and reject you for them. they pointed out my social awkwardness and my lack of freinds or a social life or any type of life and they rejected me saying that was suspicious to them.... so it doesnt matter if your diagnosed or not, they will find your traits without a diagnosis and reject you for them. they dont care for labels, they will find the faults without the label being there and those faults they consider bad for a combat team and a weak link they cannot allow. their team needs to be hyper social and prove they can become as one.

  • I'm not socially awkward though, I have friends.

  • The NHS MH services aren't great with autism health, my social worker suspected autism but the psychiatrists I was referred to didn't know autism, and even admitted it, they weren't trained in it.  Bizarre, considering its been in the mental health diagnostic manuals for decades.

    Question their assessment of you and any treatment is frowned upon, and may mean they see you as hostile - when really, you are just distressed or confused.  That means they won't really listen to you anymore, or get to know you more or take into account your concerns.

    Its tough for them, because some people they see with deny and reject a diagnosis even if its correct, because of their illness or mental state or beliefs about themselves.  Its really important mental health professionals are unbiased, and don't turn on patients - especially if their own inexperience or bias is causing a problem.

  • NHS MH certainly missed my diagnosis, even though my every interaction with them had autism stamped all over it. They just blamed me when their therapy didn't work. Well, it wouldn't. They were trying to treat a condition I didn't have, whilst missing the one I did have. If I hadn't worked out myself, I dread to think where I'd be now.

    I'd be more forgiving but for the blaming me part.

  • at times i honestly begin to doubt that NHS staff are given any training or education at all. so yeah they are not up to date with training, they cant even diagnose anything these days, from a common cold to a simple abscess, theyd fail to diagnose and argue among their other NHS staff over the many possibilities what it could be and still get it wrong and even worse never tell you anything or communicate and not even tell you of your appointments they book for you and certainly never inform you of any results they get. i find the NHS shockingly bad, its gotta be the worst health service in the entire world. if there is worse than that then the human race is doomed. we are surely living in that film "idiocracy" at this point with the stuff ive seen from so called proffesionals lol

  • I can see where your perception comes from as some folks who have been poorly served by the NHS services do get a private diagnosis, but it isn't because the criteria are different.

    The criteria are the criteria and have to be met whether assessed privately or on the NHS. A private assessor is not paid to give the diagnosis the client wants and it would very unscrupulous of them to do that. It's in the patient's interest to have the truth. I'm not denying that malpractice can occur, but it should be a rarity. I was diagnosed privately at the NAS centre and the NHS have accepted that without question. They are among the world leaders after all and do take NHS patients.

    I think what's often happening in these cases is that the NHS are under too much pressure and don't get the time to dig deeply enough. Also, some of them I don't think have kept up to date with training; hence from what others are saying here come back with stuff like if you made any eye contact at all, you aren't autistic, ignoring the fact that folk may just be forcing themselves to endure it, or may have trained themselves to focus on another part of the face etc

    Private assessments are likely to give that stuff deeper probing. It's not right. We all have an entitlement to have our needs met by the NHS, but it's not the case that that happens. In that sense you're right that money talks in that it gaiins access to the right expertise more quickly. Not morally right, but it does.

  • tbh the NHS is fecking useless anyway, it wouldnt matter if you pay the NHS theyd still make a balls up of it and their appointment system would book you in for the wrong thing or theyd make some sort of mistake. had a surgical appointment that i rebooked one time and then on rebooking they made it a phone appointment, to which i contacted them to say how can they do the surgery over phone and they claimed that its not surgery appointment but a appointment to see what needs be done first, to which i gave them benefit of doubt for, then gets a phone call months later telling me i missed my surgical appointment because these idiots did indeed get it wrong. the NHS is incompetant and could do with being privatized to make it more functional when you think on it.

  • You only need to ask people who’ve been through the system how broken it is. Many children are missed purely because the don’t talk about trains, or if they have an imagination. These are not reasons to not give a child a diagnosis, and it’s exactly the reason why so many females are ‘flying under the radar’. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs. 

    If it was that easy to ‘buy’ a diagnosis, wouldn’t people be queuing up down the road to get one, and have themselves labelled as disabled?

    Or do those missed by budget stretched NHS services need to pay to get the diagnosis that’s going to help them strategise their life better and understand themselves more? 

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  • You only need to ask people who’ve been through the system how broken it is. Many children are missed purely because the don’t talk about trains, or if they have an imagination. These are not reasons to not give a child a diagnosis, and it’s exactly the reason why so many females are ‘flying under the radar’. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs. 

    If it was that easy to ‘buy’ a diagnosis, wouldn’t people be queuing up down the road to get one, and have themselves labelled as disabled?

    Or do those missed by budget stretched NHS services need to pay to get the diagnosis that’s going to help them strategise their life better and understand themselves more? 

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  • tbh the NHS is fecking useless anyway, it wouldnt matter if you pay the NHS theyd still make a balls up of it and their appointment system would book you in for the wrong thing or theyd make some sort of mistake. had a surgical appointment that i rebooked one time and then on rebooking they made it a phone appointment, to which i contacted them to say how can they do the surgery over phone and they claimed that its not surgery appointment but a appointment to see what needs be done first, to which i gave them benefit of doubt for, then gets a phone call months later telling me i missed my surgical appointment because these idiots did indeed get it wrong. the NHS is incompetant and could do with being privatized to make it more functional when you think on it.