Is Asperger Syndrome nature or nurture?

I was recently discussing ASD with an Indian medical doctor who has lived and worked in the US. He is (like myself) an old believer that AS is a sufficiently distinctive condition for the purpose of diagnosis and the provision of services. As he is a medical doctor he uses ICD rather than DSM for diagnoses.

He is intrigued at the (almost exponential?!) rise in the number of children with AS in India since the mid 1990s, and he thinks that it is far too great and too rapid to be explained by genetics alone, but is instead the result of changes in the upbringing and lifestyle of children. India is a country that has changed almost beyond recognition in the last 25 years. So has the lifestyle of children.

He does not believe that the rise in the number of children with AS is the result of greater awareness and diagnosis. Indian culture 25 years ago was one that favoured extroversion and a gregarious lifestyle, along with quite sophisticated unwritten rules and non-verbal communication, so that any kid with AS (diagnosed or undiagnosed) 25 years ago would have stood out like a sore thumb and looked upon as being weird. Around 25 years ago you would probably find no more than one or two 'weird kids' with AS in a medium sized town. Now it's not uncommon to find at least one 'weird kid' with AS in every class in every school.

Over in the US he is equally intrigued about why AS is very rare amongst African Americans although it is encountered amongst children from other non-white races. Again, he doesn't think there is a lack of diagnosis amongst African Americans, because like with Indians 25 years ago, African Americans have a culture where any kid with AS will stand out like a sore thumb and be looked upon as being weird. However, traditional or Kanner type autism with speech and language delay is probably just as common amongst African Americans as it is amongst white Americans. As a sideline, people from more recent immigrant groups in the US – such as Indian Subcontinent, Chinese, Middle Eastern, and even black Africans – often find African Americans, and their culture and lifestyle, bewildering. They also tend not to get on well with each other due to a clash of culture and aspirations

He is wondering whether the rarity of AS both in India 25 years ago and amongst African Americans today is a result of a laid back and gregarious lifestyle, where children are not pushed into academics and encouraged to socialise and play. Indian parents both in India and the US want clever children who go into technical and professional careers, so they push them hard with Academics. In contrast, African American parents tend to push their children with sports and music, and deter them from excelling in academic subjects. Even black African parents in the US tend to push their children down an academic or business pathway.

It is crushingly unfashionable to dare to think that ANY type of ASD is a result of parental upbringing, but from his observations both in India and the US he can't help wondering whether AS really is nurture rather than nature. Something else he has noticed is that the eldest boy in the family is more likely to have AS than any of his other siblings.

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  • Hmmm, I was persuaded it was genetic, but now I'm reading a Freudian perspective on it, The Protective Shell in Children and Adults I'm more persuaded it MIGHT be that nature creates the pre-conditions that are then triggered by early life experience. So maybe the increase is due to changes in neonatal experiences although the genes were always there. The descriptions in the book really resonate with me and the four people I know well with AS all experienced the early neonatal experiences she discusses.

    Im also minded by the huge amount of Sanatorium, or Mental Hospitals, that we had in the west, and infanticide rates that we don't admit to.

    I'm one of four and the only one with significant traits although my brother has plenty, my sister has some and my other brother is ND in other ways which I suspect are related. Improved Diagnosis led to me being labelled otherwise it'd never have been spotted. My dad,s clearly AS but undiagnosed and unspotted although everyone could list his traits. My grandad was labelled as disabled but clearly AS and struggling. I'm very conscious that the therapy turn in society in the 60s means we look for the causes for difference and for cures. Previous generations didn't but accepted difference or locked them up if it was too much. Affluence has brought therapy culture to India, there's a chance it hasn't influenced Afro-Americans to the same extent and ASs go unseen there.

    It's really hard to distinguish cultural affects from genetic ones, and easy for scientific studies to miss culture as an explanatory factor. Lots of studies got undermined by studying twins that were separated at birth and raised in different environments. This seemingly pointed to genetics as a factor for many conditions until someone pointed out they'd all experienced separation from their birth mother and adoption and this is what explained the observations, ie nurture. This doesn't undermine all twin studies, just many.

    But yes, I'm curious to know why I am this way, even though it won't change anything for me.

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  • Hmmm, I was persuaded it was genetic, but now I'm reading a Freudian perspective on it, The Protective Shell in Children and Adults I'm more persuaded it MIGHT be that nature creates the pre-conditions that are then triggered by early life experience. So maybe the increase is due to changes in neonatal experiences although the genes were always there. The descriptions in the book really resonate with me and the four people I know well with AS all experienced the early neonatal experiences she discusses.

    Im also minded by the huge amount of Sanatorium, or Mental Hospitals, that we had in the west, and infanticide rates that we don't admit to.

    I'm one of four and the only one with significant traits although my brother has plenty, my sister has some and my other brother is ND in other ways which I suspect are related. Improved Diagnosis led to me being labelled otherwise it'd never have been spotted. My dad,s clearly AS but undiagnosed and unspotted although everyone could list his traits. My grandad was labelled as disabled but clearly AS and struggling. I'm very conscious that the therapy turn in society in the 60s means we look for the causes for difference and for cures. Previous generations didn't but accepted difference or locked them up if it was too much. Affluence has brought therapy culture to India, there's a chance it hasn't influenced Afro-Americans to the same extent and ASs go unseen there.

    It's really hard to distinguish cultural affects from genetic ones, and easy for scientific studies to miss culture as an explanatory factor. Lots of studies got undermined by studying twins that were separated at birth and raised in different environments. This seemingly pointed to genetics as a factor for many conditions until someone pointed out they'd all experienced separation from their birth mother and adoption and this is what explained the observations, ie nurture. This doesn't undermine all twin studies, just many.

    But yes, I'm curious to know why I am this way, even though it won't change anything for me.

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