COVID 19 vaccine and travelling

No my son is unvaccinated, they did attempt the injection but he refused it and became very upset and unsettled. We can't even get him to do a blood test or the flu vaccine but we have to keep trying with things.

Hopefully it's not to late to ask but, but did your son vaccinated in the end?

someone must have replied... it was at the top of my conversations! I usually check [facepalm]

I can't work out why this post has resurfaced. It's months old. Is it worth responding to?

All other vaccines are for viruses and organic complexities which are far better understood. The only issue at present is the Variable of the Unknown. Scientists do not have a solid understanding of Covid. 

Honestly, until they do, staycations and local holidays seem perfectly fine. There's so much to do! One can even have a camp-out with friends in the back garden. I also think protesting because there is a limit on the mass 'fun' we can have right now is such an entitled problem. I don't believe in disregarding someone's experience, but on the scale of what's happening with this virus in places like India or South America, I find these protests a bit selfish.

I actually have to travel and if given the choice, wouldn't right now. The virus may lose it's ferocity, new things like the Canadian nasal spray may become a quick & inexpensive way to keep it from doing too much harm, who knows. We just need a few years in my opinion. x

didnt know about the shark thing 

I had my first, now waiting to find out what is happening health wise with myself before the second. 

Reason for not getting the kids done. There are concerns over the impact to fertility. When I had my 1st jab I then had 4 monthly cycles in 6 weeks. Definitely not normal. Before I give it to my kids I want the drug tried and tested and the side effects known. I'm not an anti vaxxer, just someone who wants to ensure things are properly tested, and sometimes there is no better test than time.

Plus I'm upset over the endangerment of sharks due to vaccine demands.

why not ?   we had a teenager die of COVID here ---- please tell me u are vaccinated 

I will not be getting my children vaccinated. Not any time soon.

Maybe

It's hard to say what the situation will be in a few years. Perhaps there will be no more coronavirus, and we will live as before. If everything is as it is now or even a little worse, I think special measures will be invented for people like your son. I assure you, there are quite a lot of such people to do something for this. Now there are quite a lot of products such as [link removed by moderator] which allow you to quickly do tests for coronavirus. This will help your son not to make the vaccine. Yes, maybe the process itself is not so pleasant, but it lasts less than a second, and your son will not experience the consequences of the vaccine.

we discriminate against people in the UK and Ireland because they are autistic. We provide next to no support for those capable of working. Only 14% of autistics have a job. 51% of CVs mentioning autism are binned by employers in the first round of recruitment.

Yes as you say it's all a waiting game. The frustrating part for me is it's not about me refusing it, it's about my children becoming so distressed it wouldn't happen. 

I just worry about the government enforcing something and so many people being affected.

Like you said, wait is all we can do I suppose. Scary times

Hi Gemma. I share your concerns in this area. Not as a parent but as someone who believes that vaccinations should be an informed choice and not a coercion.

I don't know how things will pan out in the next 6-9 months.

In the UK, and most countries, there are strict rules that people have a human right to choose what is put into them. Which includes food, drink and medications (including vaccines).

I feel it's good just to wait things out a touch. That's at least what I plan to do. Also, there are signs that the threat of covid itself is gradually diminishing just a touch as each month goes. We now have immunity building through two channels. One is those who have caught the virus and the other new channel, now, is those who are being vaccinated.

It is possible that if the threat of the virus does diminish, then vaccinations may not be such a deal-breaker for people who are particularly concerned about taking a new vaccine.

There's a risk-benefit analysis to weigh up for each of us. Does the protection against myself and others weigh up ok against the risk of a side-effect/complication? For may people, the answer is yes, but for others, there are valid reasons to forestall or not have the vaccination.

Also, if the vaccine shows good safety over the mid-term, then some of the cautious people may indeed choose to have the vaccine themselves. 

Your own choice is important and I remain optimistic that this human right will be respected going forward.

I'm sorry but I don't understand your reply. Do what? And where is here?

Here, in the UK, no one is forced to have any injection or vaccine, only advised.

Do you mean we discriminate here? I personally don't think the UK does but again your opinion.

I think you may have missed the point of my original post. How is it right for a government to restrict people exploring the world just because they are UNABLE to have an injection due to a disability. 

we do it here ! 

I'm not here for arguments, it's not what my post was about but, surely it's unfair if children like my children or adults for that matter are unable to have any type of injection due to their sensory and communication difficulties are penalised to travel? 

I just find it hard to believe a world might actually discriminate them due to their disability.

Qantas have not announced that -----  Qantus have not actually implemented what you said. 

yes they can enforce it,  the same way they enforce their importing rules for plants and livestock in order to  prevent plant & animal diseases. The UK does it !

MMR is not connected to ASD if it was, 95% of the pop would be autistic.

The covid-19 vaccine contains no foetus material. It is manufactured in a new way.

yes MMR uses foetal cell tissue grown in a laboratory.   so what ?  it saves millions of lives world wide and will continue to do so for a very long time.

your "Christian" friends are quite willing to selfishly put their children and other people, including your children  at risk of death by spreading/carrying diseases.

Qantas ( partly owned by Virgin, and British airways ) want to introduce that limitation at end of 2021. 

I support their contribution to saving lives. Don't travel to countries with such rules problem solved

aidie

Quantas have announced we will need proof of vaccination to travel already, so not jumping ahead, just wondered how they can enforce this as my son won't be able to have an injection. He will not sit still or let anyone near him.

I understand countries need to protect their citizens but isn't this still a choice for individuals to make not forced? Also with other vaccines ie MMR in UK, it is not mandatory. You can refuse this and I know people who have as they're worried about the connection with ASD and what is within the vaccines. Some of my Christian friends will not have any vaccine as they use fetuses (yes you can Google what's in a vaccine, been using it since 1974)

I don't want to upset anyone, I'm a genuinely confused mum x

short answer is No.

You are jumping away ahead into the future.  The airlines have not said that. There are always exceptions. So stop worrying about something way in the future. 

If they do require a vaccine that is not against your human rights and is a common policy in many countries for quite a while now for other diseases. Countries have a right to protect their citizens from disease introduced by visitors.

Please, if u get the opportunity, vaccinate your kids against Covid 19. it is a very serious disease and it isn't going away. You will be putting them at quite a high risk if you do not.