an NT asking autistics what THEY want from us.....

...what do YOU want to see neurotypicals do in society to help you adapt better , fit in, feel happy etc ?

what changes do YOU think will help do this?

I think you all deserve the chance to speak about this for yourselves rather than other people doing it, so individually and as a group what are changes you think are needed?

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  • NAS10116 said:

    It would be a start if it was well endorsed that the Neurotypical perspective was not introduced as the all seeing all being point of view and that the theory of mind is debunked as a best guess that is fraut with pifalls at the best of times,

      ...but this culture seems entrenched in it's own self possed uninformed concreted attitude that monotropic is an impairment, it is not,

    I grant you it is well different and taking things litterally is not a recipe for a quick giggle but when you get the hang of it it is an avenue to greater generosity, understanding and appreciation of most things as a direct consequence of its presence.

    ..It lends itself to easy resolution and perpetuates a general persuit of greater values and investment in positivity. It also adresses the issues of bullying easily

    ..I am left head scratching with dismay and missery at the persistant poor attitude and dissenfranchising promotions that are a pervasive facet of Neurotypical investment in the notion of the ability to operate with the myth that is the theory of mind.

    ..Regardless of the degree of autism or associated conditions we experience I can see a thread of consistent shared factors and the term monotropic cosmology is a fine address as a frame work for a way of viewing the world, has the world bothered to pass beyond what quantifies professional name calling and actually learn our language and terminologies, No.

     a fantastic bunch of optomistic, steadfast, hard working and patient people we are,

    ...The assumption of a supremis attitude and right of authority is obtuse at best and often quantifies the level of indifference that it is easy to operate when faced with a whole world view of things. If you are a  world traveler and have a love of different culture then I think you may well be better equiped to begin the endevour of befriending an autistic than some people who have spent a deal of time in a class room with many a book on the subject.

    WB

    The datum by which the whole of our society is measured is what our health is asking to be moved and the health of the many will I believe be served by the needs and deserved plee of the few. But it is an antithasis to the corperate and consumtive directives of a society based on capitalism with money as the measure of quality or life itself.

     

    and you even mention capitalism Laughing

    i agree with you completely, to me its capitalism, that really took out our human intelligence and replaced it with greed and selfishness and that comes along with this lack of ability to see anything other than our own views/needs

    aside from that, i like the fact you bring up the positives about autism, its very rare, there are so many people trying to 'cure' it, and talk about 'changing/adapting the behaviours, making them 'fit in'  that we ignore the brilliant parts of it and jus thow  much autism and autistics have actually made our society

    nts have learned to be quite selfish and small minded, its not all our 'fault' tho its the world we are in, but i think it is a problem that needs to be dealt with, and as i said, i think the government and autistic authorities are the people who 'should be doing that

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  • NAS10116 said:

    It would be a start if it was well endorsed that the Neurotypical perspective was not introduced as the all seeing all being point of view and that the theory of mind is debunked as a best guess that is fraut with pifalls at the best of times,

      ...but this culture seems entrenched in it's own self possed uninformed concreted attitude that monotropic is an impairment, it is not,

    I grant you it is well different and taking things litterally is not a recipe for a quick giggle but when you get the hang of it it is an avenue to greater generosity, understanding and appreciation of most things as a direct consequence of its presence.

    ..It lends itself to easy resolution and perpetuates a general persuit of greater values and investment in positivity. It also adresses the issues of bullying easily

    ..I am left head scratching with dismay and missery at the persistant poor attitude and dissenfranchising promotions that are a pervasive facet of Neurotypical investment in the notion of the ability to operate with the myth that is the theory of mind.

    ..Regardless of the degree of autism or associated conditions we experience I can see a thread of consistent shared factors and the term monotropic cosmology is a fine address as a frame work for a way of viewing the world, has the world bothered to pass beyond what quantifies professional name calling and actually learn our language and terminologies, No.

     a fantastic bunch of optomistic, steadfast, hard working and patient people we are,

    ...The assumption of a supremis attitude and right of authority is obtuse at best and often quantifies the level of indifference that it is easy to operate when faced with a whole world view of things. If you are a  world traveler and have a love of different culture then I think you may well be better equiped to begin the endevour of befriending an autistic than some people who have spent a deal of time in a class room with many a book on the subject.

    WB

    The datum by which the whole of our society is measured is what our health is asking to be moved and the health of the many will I believe be served by the needs and deserved plee of the few. But it is an antithasis to the corperate and consumtive directives of a society based on capitalism with money as the measure of quality or life itself.

     

    and you even mention capitalism Laughing

    i agree with you completely, to me its capitalism, that really took out our human intelligence and replaced it with greed and selfishness and that comes along with this lack of ability to see anything other than our own views/needs

    aside from that, i like the fact you bring up the positives about autism, its very rare, there are so many people trying to 'cure' it, and talk about 'changing/adapting the behaviours, making them 'fit in'  that we ignore the brilliant parts of it and jus thow  much autism and autistics have actually made our society

    nts have learned to be quite selfish and small minded, its not all our 'fault' tho its the world we are in, but i think it is a problem that needs to be dealt with, and as i said, i think the government and autistic authorities are the people who 'should be doing that

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