foreign language

Jon said:

@Temple Grandin,

If you find it hard explaining sometimes it might be easier to write it down or email it them, then speak to them.

That way they have got all the main points first.

I know that this isn't practicle in many situations.

And it can still all go wrong. Especially if they then give answers you havn't anticipated.

thank you for your help.

@Temple Grandin,

If you find it hard explaining sometimes it might be easier to write it down or email it them, then speak to them.

That way they have got all the main points first.

I know that this isn't practicle in many situations.

And it can still all go wrong. Especially if they then give answers you havn't anticipated.

communication is very imported in life and i find it very hard to do this at less i  have stopped the crying when i can't explain something to someone.  

longman said:

Perhaps it would be more accurate to say "might as well be a foreign language". It's not that you know that its another language, just that it doesn't make sense to you as the hearer.

I lose coherence when there is background noise. A social location where other pepople around me are engaged in other conversations and where there is background music and other noise. 

Somehow I lose the reference point in what someone is saying to me, and it ceases to sound like english. My own way of looking at this is my "translator" seems to have gone off line.

Usually if I ask to be excused a moment or mask with a cough, and at the same time move nearer a wall or so the sounds come from one direction, the clarity comes back.

This isn't apparently peculiar to autism. People with some forms of dyslexia get this also.

I think I might get this too - but I'm not sure - I've always kind of thought it must be the same for everyone is such noisy environments - and that many people just do the nodding and smiling thing, 'cos in that kind of social environment it usually seem that what is being said doesn't really seem to matter - but maybe not...

hmm... I'm going to have study this, next time it happens...

(oh and, longman, I'm becoming more and more convinced your initial feelings about 'you know who' are probably right)

Temple said:

i don't care what people think that the good thing about being autistic. 

i have had to not care what people think all my life that the only way i can get through life. 

Temple said:

i don't care what people think that the good thing about being autistic. 

i don't know i can't read minds but the answer is no.

Do all autistic and Aspies not care what people think?

i don't care what people think that the good thing about being autistic. 

I sometimes don't know what someone is saying and even though I am trying I can't absorb it. I have to focus really hard. it can happen with reading too. If I think it doesn't matter I vaguely nod and laugh.

It has happened the other way around though where I have said something and they have misunderstood it. I have then just gone along with it without cottecting them as that seemed easier.

However that has unfortunate consequences for many of us if we guess wrongly - smiling at something said where we ought to look sad, or not showing a reaction where a reaction is really necessary.

i tend to fake it nod my head at the right places stuff like that. 

Perhaps it would be more accurate to say "might as well be a foreign language". It's not that you know that its another language, just that it doesn't make sense to you as the hearer.

I lose coherence when there is background noise. A social location where other pepople around me are engaged in other conversations and where there is background music and other noise. 

Somehow I lose the reference point in what someone is saying to me, and it ceases to sound like english. My own way of looking at this is my "translator" seems to have gone off line.

Usually if I ask to be excused a moment or mask with a cough, and at the same time move nearer a wall or so the sounds come from one direction, the clarity comes back.

This isn't apparently peculiar to autism. People with some forms of dyslexia get this also.

scorpion and goat, that makes a whole lot of sense.

Im from near Newcastle and no one can understand me regardless for some reason particulary Brummies.

I find I use the same vocabulary repetively (i hate this), my concepts are far greater than my articulation.

But yeah I interperet that sentance like Scorpion.

Jon said:

On the NAS site its says:

'If you have Asperger syndrome, understanding conversation is like trying to understand a foreign language'.

I am not all together sure what this actually means. Is it that true for all Aspies? Understanding a foreign language is impossible if you do not know it. Would that not mean that communication is impossible?

Any thoughts?

LOL.

It was probably written by a neuro-typical who was trying to get across to other neuro-typicals what it's like to have Asperger's, without actually knowing for themselves what it's actually like.

Or, in other words, it's a really bad analogy!

I would imagine it's more like being a Japanese person, who speaks rudimentary English, trying to have a conversation with someone from Newcastle.

I.e. there is communication, and conversation, but much of the nuance and subtlety gets 'lost in translation'.

I think.

But then, I have Asperger's so what would I know!?

Maybe there's some whole universe of conversational layers that NT's use that I'm not aware of!?