so i am a fan of a video game called undertale and one of the main reasons is because it has so many morals and moments and things you can learn from it heck i heard of a man who got his will back to live from this game anyways the main thing i'm getting too is how i show people these things like moments that made my cry on the inside or morals you learn from moments of the game and they just go "cool" and that's it and i don't like that because people don't seem to get the meanings behind these moments and characters and the strange things is people can react like that to books and movies but not this game and not just undertale but other things as well that i fell in love with because of some of this and people just don't seem to care as much as i do and that kinda makes me feel like i'm the only one who got the "feels" in amazing videos made by fans that portray these moments perfectly like (you will only know these if you played undertale) when undyne became undyne the undying and what she said before and after and papyrus always believing in you and sans and even mettaton and asriel and both pacifist and genocide and more so what i'm saying is that people don't seem to get the morals and meanings like i do and even if i tell them they will just go "cool".
I hear ya! This has been my little gripe to myself today. However, the truth is, we are in the minority and expecting others to understand us and be as amazed as we are, is just asking for trouble. A common trait amongst us is that we automatically think people should think like us (without realising it) so when they don’t, we feel baffled and then we don’t like it. But the truth is, most people won’t ever understand what we’re talking about. My son says I can clear a room in 30 seconds because most people don’t understand what I’m talking about so they leave the room or the conversation.
And the truth is, we don’t need them to understand. We have many choices we can make out of this. We can choose to attract into our lives, those who share our world view and interests etc and in the meantime, accept others for who they are with their own world views. It’s not that we’re upset that they don’t understand us, it’s that they didn’t give us the response we wanted, so we have to accept that and just be happy to have all these morals etc, which include accepting ourselves as we are and accepting others as they are. Life can be tough sometimes but that is just life showing us where we’re not practicing our own morals etc. You’ll get the hang of it. You’ve got tremendous awareness etc and insights which is great, but there are fewer people to share your wisdom with.
that's true thanks for that, i guess i mainly wish i could meet people who see what i see
Well, unless you’ve got a fairy godmother hanging around your shoulders, waiting to grant you 3 wishes, ‘wishing’ you could meet people who see what you see is pretty much a waste of time. You could however, begin to look into finding out where people like you might hang out. For example, I prefer to drink coffee as opposed to a pint of beer or something similar to that. So if I was wanting to meet more people like me, I wouldn’t sit around wishing, and I wouldn’t head for the pub, I’d start hanging out at coffee shops. I would then get the opportunity to meet others, like me, and I do do this and I meet some of the most wonderful and diverse people ever, even if I don’t even talk to them, I have spent endless hours of feeling connected and feeling love, enjoying the shared space with other people like me, people who enjoy drinking coffee in coffee shops. I’ve enjoyed some really beautiful precious moments of a true mutual exchange of love with people I have only met once. I thoroughly enjoy meeting others like me.
that's a very good idea it's just hard because of my shyness and social anxiety and self doubts so i guess i got to solve that first but thanks.
Is it really hard, or do you just think it’s hard? For example, all I suggested was for you to begin to explore places where people like you might hang out. I didn’t say anything about going to those places. When I spoke of going places, I was simply referring to my situation as a way of an example. All I suggested to you, was that you might begin to just have a little look. Have a think about it, wonder what kinds of places they might go. What might they do. What will they talk about. Have some fun with it, olay with it. You can do all this without leaving your bed. You’re way ahead of yourself, setting yourself up to fail before you’ve even started, by scaring yourself, telling yourself that it’s hard, your shy, you’ve got social anxiety, you’ve got self doubts, you’ve got to solve all that before you can even begin to think about where might people like you hang out. Don’t go knocking on people’s doors asking if they’ll be your friend, before you even know where they are or what they do when they do hang out. You might find they hang out in places you wouldn’t want to go, so in that case, the next logical solution would be to begin to have fun with the idea of starting up your own meeting. Nothing is ‘hard’ in and of itself, only when we think about the whole thing can it sometimes feel hard. Before you ever get to the stage of actually going to a place, you will have taken hundreds of steps before you got there and maybe over a rather long period of time. We don’t push ourselves, we don’t set ourselves up for failure, we do get support but we don’t sit around wishing life was different. That only gets us feeling bad, sad and lonely, whereas on the other hand, if we start to consider and explore options and possibilities and what it is we would really like, we feel good and inspired and we can take action, taking tiny, teeny, teeny, weeny, baby steps, and as slow as is good for us. Best of luck.
Wow! That's a long sentence, but I think I get the gist of it!
I'm not really a gamer. I get those things you describe from reading - especially short stories and poetry. The big guns for me are people like Raymond Carver and Charles Bukowski. Carver's fiction and poetry taught me so much: about what love is (and isn't), and the power of meaning in the simplest and most ordinary of things. Bukowski taught me (as Carver did, but in a different way) that it's okay to be me. To be different. To be the lone wolf. To be an outcast. I re-read these two guys constantly - especially when I'm feeling low and bad about myself. They always make me sit up and take notice. They always renew my confidence.
Martian Tom that is exactly how I feel about my game.
But you’re not a lone wolf, you’re not an outcast, and you're certainly not different. Not from me anyway, and neither are you any different from many others on here. Sure, we’re a bit different from most people, but hey, we’re mostly kind of glad about that.
Your comment about the power of meaning in the simplist and most ordinary of things, and about how you were taught what love is, reminded me of the course in miracles. You may have already heard of it or indeed completed the course. But if not, or for any body else who is interested.
The core teaching of The Course in Miracles is that there is both Love and fear. Love is within us and and fear is what we learn. The Course acknowledges that Love is too great to teach so the focus is on teaching the unlearning of fear. Marianne Williamson explains it this way ~ “Love is what we are born with. Fear is what we learn. The spiritual journey is the unlearning of fear and prejudices and the acceptance of love back in our hearts. Love is the essential reality and our purpose on earth. To be consciously aware of it, to experience love in ourselves and others, is the meaning of life. Meaning does not lie in things. Meaning lies in us.”
Another good quote from the course in miracles, is, “Nothing outside yourself can save you; nothing outside yourself can give you peace. But this also means that nothing outside yourself can hurt you or disturb your peace or upset you in anyway.”
Your comment mostly reminded me of the first two lessons in the Course in Miracles. “Nothing I see in this room [on this street,
from this window, in this place] means anything.” “I have given everything I see in this room [on this street,
from this window, in this place] all the meaning that it has for me.”
The course can be summed up very simply in this way ~ Nothing real can be threatened.Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God.”
They are your feelings and they are valid and good, I often get a parallel feeling with music and it completely floors me that no one else is getting it, at best they think it's 'good' music, but they are not really listening. I'm nearly fifty now and only just realising that other people not feeling the same at the same prompts doesn't make my feelings invalid, or the other person cold or ignorant. I still find it hard to accept that my feelings and opinions are worthy without someone else identifying and agreeing. We feel what we feel and we have to learn to trust it as important without outside validation.
I don't think I've quite said what I mean as usual, but I tried.
spotty I also can feel that about music and games and lots of things.