Autistic children in scouting - does it work anywhere?

At a recent coffee morning we had an interesting discussion about autistic children attending local scout groups.

The general experience seemed to be negative but there was one +ve experience.

I will relate my own experience below but there were other similar horror stories of appalling leadership practise and a simple refusal to make any adjustments to accommodate autistic children. 

I bought up the subject as my eldest was banned from our local beaver group after I made a request for reasonable adjustments.He has Aspergers and I always attended meetings with him to support him so there really wasn't a big problem in accommodating his extra needs. My requests were minor - at a sleepover I asked for specific food which I would supply and highlighted the need for him to sleep in the same room as me. Both of these accommodations had been made at a previous sleepover. However a new leader was in place and she went absolutely ballistic at my request and said my attendance at her group was disruptive to other children! From what I had previously observed I think her concerns related more to their poor safeguarding practise then any alleged disruption to other children.

Their actions were clearly illegally but when I started legal proceedings (simply to get any response to my complaint) the Scout Association employed an expensive solicitor to fight their case. I chose not to pursue the matter as the risks of losing and incurring costs exceeded any benefit from winning. My son had dropped out of scouting and no court award was going to change that outcome.At the time we only had a diagnosis for our son. Now some 12 months later we finally have an EHCP in place which clearly outlines my sons needs. Perhaps with the EHCP I would have had more confidence in continuing  with the court case as it could have been used in court and would have been hard for the Scout Association to challenge.

I have recently been told that our youngest son (not autistic) has also been banned from the local group. No reason has been given. He can't attend any other group as the local District are insisting children have to attend their nearest group. Again the action is probably illegal but not worth the effort of fighting as the Scout Association simply don't apply their own rules or support parents/children targeted by bigoted leaders 

I notice NAS promote scouting in their magazine but from my experience the overwhelming opinion is that scouting is a waste of time. The children end up being excluded and suffer unnecessary distress as a result. Is it just the area I live in or is it a wider problem. Their lots of good guidance of the scout website but it just isn't followed locally,.

I believe the chief scout is still Bear Grylis. Personally  I am surprised he continues to be associated with an organisation  that so blatantly discriminates against disabled people. He never replied to my correspondence to him. Instead the Chief Executive replied with  a very legalistic denial of any wrong doing and stating that all children were welcome in scouting.

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  • my son is a comitted scout leader following 4 years of being a young leader when he was an Explorer Scout and he loved cubs and scouts too however I have to say there were no adjustments made for him and recently scouting headquarters organised an Explorer belt to Denmark and the mentors denied we had informed them of his autism (they had to eat their words as they said "I'll just pull up his form im my computer as he may not have shared the final one with you" and then went silent as it was clearly there. in the end we had to cancel late in the day and they still haven't refunded the money he raised and had to transfer to their account.

    He was one of 12 Explorers in the whole of his county to get his Chief Scout's Platinum, which is hard to get and did that all on his own and I don’t think he's ever been supported or recognised for his achievements in the face of his disabilities 

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  • my son is a comitted scout leader following 4 years of being a young leader when he was an Explorer Scout and he loved cubs and scouts too however I have to say there were no adjustments made for him and recently scouting headquarters organised an Explorer belt to Denmark and the mentors denied we had informed them of his autism (they had to eat their words as they said "I'll just pull up his form im my computer as he may not have shared the final one with you" and then went silent as it was clearly there. in the end we had to cancel late in the day and they still haven't refunded the money he raised and had to transfer to their account.

    He was one of 12 Explorers in the whole of his county to get his Chief Scout's Platinum, which is hard to get and did that all on his own and I don’t think he's ever been supported or recognised for his achievements in the face of his disabilities 

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