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  • Please do not post links to sites like these, they only serve to confuse the naive and aggravate the sensible majority. The vaccine hoax was exposed years ago.

    From the BMJ, BMJ 2010;340:c2803  24 May 2010:   "Dr Wakefield was found guilty of dishonesty and irresponsibility by the GMC, the UK’s regulatory body. The fitness to practise panel held that Dr Wakefield abused his position, subjected children to intrusive procedures such as lumbar puncture and colonoscopy that were not clinically indicated, carried out research that flouted the conditions of ethics committee approval, and brought the medical profession into disrepute (BMJ 29 January 2010, ;340:c593, doi:10.1136/bmj.c593).

    After the GMC’s verdict the Lancet retracted the 12 year old paper that sparked the crisis in confidence in the safety of the vaccine (BMJ 2 February 2010;340:c696, doi:10.1136/bmj.c696).

    The paper, published when Dr Wakefield was a consultant gastroenterologist at the Royal Free Hospital in London, caused the biggest public health scare in UK history. Although the paper did not claim it had found a definite link between the vaccine and autism, Dr Wakefield suggested at a press conference that single vaccines for measles, mumps, and rubella might be preferable to the triple vaccine."

    The biggest public health scare in UK history ... or at least, it was before Covid brought out a new batch of crazies. Please do not perpetuate it.  Snake oil salespeople will continue to schmooze desperate parents into buying expensive and useless "cures" for their kids' autism. Please do not encourage them!

  • Everything that you have written needed to be written here and I warmly commend you for a job very well done, indeed.  I congratulate you on a very fair, balanced, appropriate and necessary statement.

    The OP has swung open a door, and the matters prompted by such a presentation are amorphous.

    I speak here as neither one of the naive, nor one of the sensible majority, I am Number.

    Conflation, emotion, simplification, politicisation "of the whole" are rife when even the slightest "flavours" are "spotted" within public discourse these days.  I think the OP dosed this presentation with hot chilli sauce.

    I personally don't think it is possible to discuss an ever growing list of topic areas in open forum.  I have made my list available to the OP in the past for consideration.

    I also note, however, that some souls are not immediately drawn-to-arms, ignore the chilli and have their minds taken in different directions with resultant posts that;

    a) a good news story about someone's autism reality (that came from me)

    and

    b) constipation (that came from Deepthought)......[oh, ok, he said diet, but not as funny!]

    Again, I commend you on presenting salient and important information surrounding these matters.  Bravo.

  • Thanks. I am very much aware that a lot of people coming to this site are parents of newly-diagnosed kids, parents who are overwhelmed by the news that their kids have what is commonly viewed as a "disability", and are tip-toeing through the minefield. CAMHS, SEND, SENDCO,EHCP ... even the acronyms are a strange new world.

    Maybe a few of the quacks actually believe their own rhetoric. I once had a parent who was convinced that after the pastor had prayed over her child  (and she had paid over a thank-offering) her child's autism was cured. Unfortunately, she was the only one who saw the miracle. The school, social services and health professionals were unconvinced. Like the Red Queen, there are those who can believe three impossible things before breakfast.

    Then we have the cynical, manipulative snake-oil vendors who sell their remedies. Sometimes there is a small placebo effect, or some other minor effect from their herbs and potions, sometimes not. Then we have the dangerous clinicians like Wakefield, and the other guy who chemically castrated autistic boys. If there is a hell he should be first on the barbecue with the paedophile priests.

    I think it behoves those of us who are "old hands" , whether we are professionals or experts by experience, to only provide information which is supported by evidence. And where the scientific theories are falsified, dump them. Dump on them.

    Most of us have fundamental sphincters, but it is best not to talk through them.  

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  • Thanks. I am very much aware that a lot of people coming to this site are parents of newly-diagnosed kids, parents who are overwhelmed by the news that their kids have what is commonly viewed as a "disability", and are tip-toeing through the minefield. CAMHS, SEND, SENDCO,EHCP ... even the acronyms are a strange new world.

    Maybe a few of the quacks actually believe their own rhetoric. I once had a parent who was convinced that after the pastor had prayed over her child  (and she had paid over a thank-offering) her child's autism was cured. Unfortunately, she was the only one who saw the miracle. The school, social services and health professionals were unconvinced. Like the Red Queen, there are those who can believe three impossible things before breakfast.

    Then we have the cynical, manipulative snake-oil vendors who sell their remedies. Sometimes there is a small placebo effect, or some other minor effect from their herbs and potions, sometimes not. Then we have the dangerous clinicians like Wakefield, and the other guy who chemically castrated autistic boys. If there is a hell he should be first on the barbecue with the paedophile priests.

    I think it behoves those of us who are "old hands" , whether we are professionals or experts by experience, to only provide information which is supported by evidence. And where the scientific theories are falsified, dump them. Dump on them.

    Most of us have fundamental sphincters, but it is best not to talk through them.  

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