Suicide and Obsessions

I don't really know why I am posting this. I guess just in the hope for validation and I'm struggling to tell/explain to my fiance.

Recently I have been feeling like I have come to the end of my road. Everything is just too much (family, friends, money, work, uni, you name it and it's too much currently). I am overwhelmed and wanting to end it all. 

I planned to take my life on New year's Eve. Researched what it means to my life insurance, planned my funeral, decided what I wanted doing with my estate, and wrote letters to my fiance and my parents. Then on the day I went to see my younger brother and got home distraught that I couldn't leave him to navigate this world alone. He is also autistic and less functioning than myself, partially due to his deafness. Our parents love us but just don't understand us and I worry that him not having me to help him navigate things that there will be a huge fallout and just disasterous for him. I know that makes me sound bigheaded but I don't mean it that way, we help each other immensely I just don't think he has awareness of that.

So when I got home I went for a nap and when I woke I spontaneously told my fiance to look in the place I put the letters. Long story short, he read them all and we talked a lot and I decided not to act on it. He tried making me feel guilty for wanting to leave him and as much as I know how much it would hurt him, and absolutely do not want that, I am struggling to see that as a reason to stay alive.

In all of this the suicide has become an obsession that I just cannot let go. I can't separate the feeling of wanting to do it and the obsession. When I get an idea I have to follow through no matter what. Obviously this is a bit different to needing to replace the car because I got an obsession over something.

I don't know how to talk to him about this. Or even if I should.

When we have 'deep' conversations he shows an understanding of my difficulties (such as miss reading his feelings) but that only ever seems to be during the conversation, it doesn't carry through to afterwards. So for example after the conversation on New year's Eve he acknowledged he needs to be blunter with me and specific and not leave me with too many unknown things (such as if he is planning to do a placement year at uni which would have an astronomical impact to improve our lives). But since then (yes I know it's only a day) he hasn't been any different and I am still wide awake wondering what next week will bring with our financials etc nevermind our wedding next year.

I am sorry for the huge rant! I could write none stop for the next week with all the things on my mind. I guess the current thing is separating the suicidal ideation with the suicidal obsession and getting him to understand me in a way that means he wants to try adapt to help me more. I know asking a NT to remove their filter is a big thing but just a little would help a lot.

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  • I don’t think NTs process tragedy and loss the same way we do. When you experience tragedy, something that leaves a hole, deficiency, in your life they say stupid things like you need to get over it, just need to adjust.

    In my experience the most successful autistic people are those who find places where they don’t need to adapt. Or find ways to adapt the place they are to them.

    I lost a pen once. It wasn’t any pen. I was just starting my second semester at uni and my parents bought me a special nasa space pen for Christmas. And I left it on my desk at the lecture theatre. I did everything I could to find it once I realised I’d left it and as the options ran out and I realised it was gone and wasn’t coming back I started to panic. So something snapped in my brain and I marched immediately into town and bought a new identical nasa space pen. Cost about 50£ as I recall. It was the only way at that point to stop me completely falling apart.

    When life throws us curve balls NTs tell us get over it, what we need is someone to help us find a new pen.

    But what if I didn’t have 50£? What if it’s not a pen you’ve lost? What if it’s your friend or a family member or even your health? What if there are things you can’t do any more because of your body, or at least not enjoy as much as you used to? And all people can tell you to do is get over it, Move on?

    It doesn’t work that way for us. When something leaves a hole in our lives we need to fill it to move on. So you feel like you’ve no control, and when people tell you there is nothing you can do, move on, it just reenforces that lack of control. I understand how suicide could seem tempting. It might seem like a way to take back control, end things on your own terms.

    My life often feels like sisyphus pushing a rock up a hill only to have it roll down again. And the people by you keep saying stop pushing the rock, just get over it. It’s like hell. But it occurs to me that even if they never help me, even if I never get that rock over that hill it’s not nessacerally all in vain. The things I do today may pave the way for others like me, who one day stand in my stead, to have and achieve what I never could. A man once said civilisation only exists where old men plant trees they know they will never sit under. It’s small comfort but at least with that thought in your mind there is still some point to it all.

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  • I don’t think NTs process tragedy and loss the same way we do. When you experience tragedy, something that leaves a hole, deficiency, in your life they say stupid things like you need to get over it, just need to adjust.

    In my experience the most successful autistic people are those who find places where they don’t need to adapt. Or find ways to adapt the place they are to them.

    I lost a pen once. It wasn’t any pen. I was just starting my second semester at uni and my parents bought me a special nasa space pen for Christmas. And I left it on my desk at the lecture theatre. I did everything I could to find it once I realised I’d left it and as the options ran out and I realised it was gone and wasn’t coming back I started to panic. So something snapped in my brain and I marched immediately into town and bought a new identical nasa space pen. Cost about 50£ as I recall. It was the only way at that point to stop me completely falling apart.

    When life throws us curve balls NTs tell us get over it, what we need is someone to help us find a new pen.

    But what if I didn’t have 50£? What if it’s not a pen you’ve lost? What if it’s your friend or a family member or even your health? What if there are things you can’t do any more because of your body, or at least not enjoy as much as you used to? And all people can tell you to do is get over it, Move on?

    It doesn’t work that way for us. When something leaves a hole in our lives we need to fill it to move on. So you feel like you’ve no control, and when people tell you there is nothing you can do, move on, it just reenforces that lack of control. I understand how suicide could seem tempting. It might seem like a way to take back control, end things on your own terms.

    My life often feels like sisyphus pushing a rock up a hill only to have it roll down again. And the people by you keep saying stop pushing the rock, just get over it. It’s like hell. But it occurs to me that even if they never help me, even if I never get that rock over that hill it’s not nessacerally all in vain. The things I do today may pave the way for others like me, who one day stand in my stead, to have and achieve what I never could. A man once said civilisation only exists where old men plant trees they know they will never sit under. It’s small comfort but at least with that thought in your mind there is still some point to it all.

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