I think i have AS

Hi All,

My Name is Mike, I am 40 years old and have recently been made aware i might have AS.

Apologies in advance for the way i write ( i cant really punctuate), but it makes sense to me, but maybe not to the reader in places.

That said..

For me this come as some relief but also i find dispair, for many years i have struggled to understand / know why people react to me the way they do, i have tried many ways to communicate and it doesnt seem to get any easier.

My partner (T of 10 years) has recently suggested that i may have AS. T has had some experience of other mental health problems (i dont like to call them problems but dont know what is PC these days) through her previous employment as a carer for people with special needs.

T has recently bought some books on A S, (Freaks, Geeks and Asperger's Syndrome by Luke Jackson & Alone Together by Katrin Bentley).

Portions of these books that she has read aloud to me match my behaviour like it was written about me.

So i now have some comfort in finally begining to identify and understand what makes me "tock" I have AS!

i am very literal in almost everything i do, which i guess some people i know find amusing but in my personal life it is not that amusing, i get in trouble because i dont think beyond the meaning of the words i hear, i dont hear the invisble "i need your help" when T is talking to me.

I find that conversation turn into arguements, i have recently begun watching myself afterwards (To explain i switch off and re run the video in my head and try to relive the event to see what happens in my head)

i discovered that random faces (you know those photos we take of people enjoying themselves socially, when we look back we caught some random grimace and at no point did anyone actually see that face but photos are odd the way they capture stuff that way) anyway i see these micro facial reactions (bit like the guy in the TV series "Lie To Me") in realtime and it causes anger within me, also i get confusing contradicting information, the faces + odd emphasis on words + body language all of which seem to cause anger, this anger builds i become dizzy and can end up exiting through my mouth when i dont want it to.

to make matters worse i also struggle to understand why all the "normal" people dont have live updateable white boards in their heads like me, i recently had a conversation with T re the Alone Together book, the man in the book has AS, it mentions that AS people can have "white boards", "volume control" issues, the need to "correct errors", "lack of theory of mind" (not knowing what others are thinking) difficulties interpreting facial expressions and body language, all of which i know i have in spades.

so we were talking about these and what i recognise about these things, during which time i got angry, raised my voice, felt like i was being attacked, T's face and body language told me she was being agrressive, then we have an aguement and T tells me to stop shouting (i dont think i was but ok i accept i might have been) and it all went downhill from there.

the logical part of my head tells me that T is trying, she has found books, she is comunicating with me, we are talking, but we are also argueing, arguements worse than i can remember.

I dont get why she can read out something she thinks is like how i am and then not apply that rule to me in the same sentance, "oh look you find it hard to recognise facial expressions & body language" and then wondering why i sometimes react at her.

this causes the most frustration to me, in my head, i feel dizzy, i feel angry, but most of all i cant understand why you can tell me something then ignore it when communicating, as i said to T, why learn french and refuse to speak it??

Emotionally i am slipping into dispair, knowing now more about what is going on doesnt help the overwhelming feelings of dispair. i feel that i am losing that which is so imporant to me, my partner T and our 7 month old baby girl.

I fear that she is not strong enough to see this through with me, she is very angry with me, now i am sitting here alone crying, fearing the inevitable breakup, i really hate being so literal, part of me is a bit scientific "all evidence" points to the inevitable, i cant let go of what i see coming, i really dont want it to happen, are there drugs to prevent AS is there any solution to turn it off??

i decided to reach out for help, i dont know where to turn, i want to fix myself, i dont want to suffer any more, i just want to be "normal", if i lose my T and our Baby i dont think i will make it any further.  this is unsettling to me as information normally makes me feel more secure this is the reverse the more i find the more worried abiout my future i become.

Mike.

  • Your T is a new Mother.  
    It's very hard being a new Mum.
    It's exhausting.  New Mums can feel very emotional and vulnerable and isolated.
    She might want more from you right now than you are able to give.  

    You may need some outside support.
    Get as much help as you can..... family, friends or paid help.
    Even it's just getting a cleaner or babysitter in for an hour or 2 a week.  A little bit of down time and a feeling of support might take the pressure off a little bit and make things easier.
    A Home Start volunteer might be a good place to start.  www.home-start.org.uk

    The first year is the hardest.  It will get easier. 

    Good luck 

  • Hi Mike,

    I am new on here, your post was the first that caught my eye, because I think I have AS too. I have come to the realisation myself though, which makes it easier I think. We have a 9 year old son who we think - and his school agrees - has AS, so we have just started the process of diagnosis for him. My first avenue when faced with something new is to read. Lots and lots of books, to help me understand. What it has done this time is bring me to the realisation that we both have Aspergers. And I have to say I am really happy with that realisation! This may sound strange, but I understand now, it all fits and makes sense, and all the quirks and peculiarities and just plain weirdness that is me sometimes is because I AM NOT NT. My brain really doesn't work the same way that others' do, I always suspected as much and it is amazingly liberating to have it 'confirmed' (I added the '' because its a self-diagnosis, not official yet).

    What I mean to say to you, with all that, is don't despair! If you have AS, then accepting this gives you the key to understanding yourself, to help T understand and keep and develop your relationship. There is help to be had too, whether or not you go down the route of an official diagnosis, or prefer the self-diagnosis and self-help route. There's relationship advice books for AS-NT relationships. More for AS men with NT partners, I'm an AS woman with a NT husband (with some clear AS traits, which makes it easier), there's not as much out there for me. I got Rudy Simone' book '22 Things a Woman with Asperger's Syndrome Wants Her Partner to Know', which is completely excellent. My husband is currently reading it too. She's written another book from the opposite perspective, what an AS man wants is partner to know. Reading something like this may help your other half and yourself understand and accept. It has to go both ways, always. You have to learn to adjust and she has to too. 

    Having a baby is not an easy time in anyone's life (however fabulous having a new little person in your life is), everyone is tired and probably more stressed than usual. This won't make any discussions and adjusting to AS any easier. However, you have been together for a long time, she's had plenty of time to get to know you, it might even have been some of your Aspie traits she fell in love with! You should not forget that you have not changed just because you both may think you have AS, you are still you, you just might know yourself better. 

    I hope it all works out for you!

  • Welcome to the flawed genius club, it can be a struggle to accept a growing realisation of traits you have.

    Open and honesty are key to comming to terms with situation.

    we make time with a cup of tea an bed time to cuddle up and discuss concerns- could you do similar to reasure your partner and in calm blame free discussion? 

  • Hmm. I am a NT Mrs with an AS Mr and an AS child. I am a little bit further down the road than your partner, I think. Its bl**dy hard for both parties. We are in the process of having counselling as AS has nearly destroyed our relationship.

    Here is my advice to you from an NT perspective - which is what T requires.

    Firstly, show her your post. If you do not want her to see you have posted here, copy and paste what you have written into an email.

    Secondly, tell her that you love her and need her help to overcome the difficulties. You cannot be expected to operate in a NT world without help and that is not your fault. You were made like that. If you are willing to accept the AS and help that is a MASSIVE start.

    Thirdly, T has to accept and come to terms with the fact you are AS and believe me, this is hard. But if you accept you are living in a NT world and need to moderate certain things to continue a relationship - this is half the battle won. Sadly, I am not quite there with my partner, but hopefully on the way. T has a journey to go on too, as to continue the relationship she must accept you have AS. This means that both of you will have to make many compromises and adjust your expectations - NOT just her, by the way. You too.

    Its hard to find help out there for high function, as I know. But I don't think its insurmountable. I still love my partner and want to be with him though he has caused me so much pain and he makes me live with insufferable conditions sometimes. I'm thinking positive and focusing on the things we have going for us as well as the negatives.

    Love Rosemary xx

     

  • Hi Mike - welcome to the forum.  I'm sorry to read about your anxieties + despair.  It sounds like everything to do with aspergers in relation to yourself is hitting you hard.  How were you before you + T embarked on the AS "journey?"  I had no problems reading your post so don't apologise for that.  Have you been able to explain to T how upset all this is making you?  I'm an NT so may not be the best 1 to give advice.  Maybe you + T are taking things too fast?  It's a lot to get your head around.  I can understand you both being sensitive, because this is a sensitive thing to discuss.  It can therefore be easy to have rows in situations such as that.  It takes time to adjust to things so you've got a lot to consider which shouldn't be rushed.  Please don't blame yourself for having undiagnosed AS.  If you do have AS then you have it.  Full stop.  Like someone has a certain eye colour, foot size, etc.  Please don't beat yourself up emotionally.  You've been with your partner for 10 years + if you have AS, then you had it when you met.  Have you been able to explain to T how worried you are about the future?  Perhaps T may not interpret the rows as seriously as you do.  I don't know.  Have you considered showing T your post on here.  I think you've expressed yourself lucidly.  Others will come along to advise + support who will have more direct experience than me.  bw