Hello advice about ADOS assessment please

Hi I’m new to this site, I’ve had a good look around but I can’t seem to find the answer to the question I have.  My son was diagnosed with Autism in December 2020 he was 13 at the time and has now just turned 14.  He is a great child but suffers terribly from anxiety and like many not great with the social aspect of life.  My question is we were just told over a video call that he has autism and they can’t do anything else to help so thanks and goodbye basically.  When the letter arrived again it stated autism with a high score of 10.  I have no idea what this means could anyone help? Also should I have received a copy of the ADOS assessment report? I feel if I know what he was assessed on maybe the score would make more sense. Anybody who has an idea I’d be grateful as school is asking what type of autism and how bad? To me he’s just the same so I don’t know. Thanks


  • The NAS team did not know so they advised me to ask the Lorna Wing Diagnostic Centre ~ so I have and I will let everyone here and elsewhere know as it is question asked on other website forums too.

    The Lorna Wing Centre sent this in response to my and the OP's question:


    ADOS-2 Assessment


    What is it?


    The Autism Diagnostic Observation Schedule (ADOS-2) is a semi-structured assessment of communication, social interaction, and play (or imaginative use of materials) for individuals suspected of having autism or other pervasive developmental disorders. The ADOS-2 has four possible modules which are selected for use based on developmental and language levels, ranging from nonverbal to verbally-fluent.


    Structure and purpose of assessment


    The ADOS consists of standardized activities that allow the examiner to observe the behaviours that are important to the diagnosis of autism across developmental levels and chronological ages. The examiner selects the module that is most appropriate for a particular child or adult on the basis of his/her expressive language level and chronological age. Structured activities and materials, as well as less structured interactions, provide standardized contexts in which social, communicative and other behaviours relevant to pervasive developmental disorders are observed. Within each module, the participant's response to each activity is recorded.


    The ADOS provides a 30- to 45-minute observation period during which the examiner has numerous opportunities to observe relevant behaviours through standard 'presses'. 'Presses' consist of planned social occasions in which it has been determined in advance that a behaviour of a particular type is likely to appear (Murray, 1938).


    Each situation provides a different combination of presses for particular social behaviours.


    Module 1 is intended for individuals who do not consistently use phrase speech. Materials for Module 1 have been selected for young children, but materials from other modules may be substituted if desired.


    Module 2 is intended for individuals with some phrase speech who are not verbally fluent.


    Module 3 is intended for verbally fluent children for whom playing with toys is age-appropriate (usually up to 12 - 16 years of age). Verbal fluency is broadly defined as having the expressive language of a typical four-year-old child: producing a range of sentence types and grammatical forms, using language to provide information about events out of the context of the ADOS, and producing some logical connections within sentences (e.g., "but" or "though").


    Module 4 includes many of the tasks in Module 3 (some of which are optional), as well as additional interview items about daily living. It is intended for verbally-fluent adolescents and adults. The difference between Modules 3 and 4 lies primarily in whether information about social-communication is more appropriately acquired during play or a conversational interview.


    The four modules overlap in activities, but together contain a variety of tasks ranging from observing how a young child requests that the examiner continue blowing up a balloon in Module 1 to a conversation about social relationships at school or work in Module 4. Modules 1 and 2 will often be conducted while moving among different places around a room, reflecting the interests and activity levels of young children or children with very limited language; Modules 3 and 4 take place sitting at a table and involve more conversation and language without a physical context.


    The object is not to test specific cognitive abilities or other skills in the activities, but to have tasks that are sufficiently intriguing that the child or adult being assessed will want to participate.


    Overall ratings are made at the end of the schedule. These ratings can then be use to formulate a diagnosis through the use of a diagnostic algorithm for each module. The scores for the items in the algorithm vary between 0 and 2. A score of 0 indicates that behaviour/communication in that area showed no differences or difficulties. A score of 1 indicates some differences which may reflect an Autism Spectrum Disorder. A score of 2 indicates clear differences or difficulties that may be reflect an Autism Spectrum Disorder. These scores are then calculated in relation to the ADOS-2 algorithm to identify whether that child or adult presents with an ADOS score that reflects Autism/Autism Spectrum Disorder.


    In all modules an overall score of 7 or more is considered to be indicative of an ADOS diagnosis of Autism/Autism Spectrum Disorder.

    How do we use this assessment?


    At the Lorna Wing Centre the ADOS-2 is not used as a primary diagnosis tool, our primary tool is the DISCO. Clinicians may use the ADOS-2 if they have been formally trained and are experienced in its use. They may use it with children or adults to provide a structured basis on which to assess a range of communication, imaginative and play skills.


    In general it is less likely that scores from the ADOS-2 will be discussed in reporting as clinicians will be using it to gather qualitative information and recognise the limitations of this process. However, there may be occasions where they feel that reporting on scoring will be valuable to an individual’s report and future care, in which case this is likely to be discussed during assessment.



  • I couldn't find out much about the scores to be honest - I got a score of 7 and it said on my report ADOS-2 classification = Autistic Spectrum. My other test results were AQ=41 and EQ=7 (I didn't do the RQ test)

    Regarding scores of up to 10 according to some sources and more than 10 according to others, I called the NAS helpline thinking it might be something like the Autistic Quotient (AQ)50 Test being abridged to become the AQ10 Test, possibly.

    The NAS team did not know so they advised me to ask the Lorna Wing Diagnostic Centre ~ so I have and I will let everyone here and elsewhere know as it is question asked on other website forums too.


  • I couldn't find out much about the scores to be honest - I got a score of 7 and it said on my report ADOS-2 classification = Autistic Spectrum. My other test results were AQ=41 and EQ=7 (I didn't do the RQ test)

  • i had a quick look around the internet.  "ADOS-2 comparison score ranges  from 1 to 10 where 10 is the highest score."

    Put in a simpler way is is really autistic he cant be any more autistic 

    I hope I am correct. Its a very confusing area.

    u need to find out which ADOS was used eg ADOS or ADOS-2  and the module used eg mdule 4 ?

    next you need to get the name of the score. I am talking about the comparison score

    u need to get back to your assessor and get your sons severity clarified and a report of his weaknesses and strengths

    If I am wrong can others please correct me 

  • Thank you for your help and I will look into the link you’ve provided plus the book. Where I am in Lincolnshire there are no local support groups and the medical professionals have said they have no services in place anymore except CAMHS which we’ve already been too for his anxiety but  due to Covid we’re taken off the list except if their is an emergency.


  •  My question is we were just told over a video call that he has autism and they can’t do anything else to help so thanks and goodbye basically.

    Basically autism assessment / diagnostic teams or units can only do assessments and make a diagnosis if someone has autism, so any support thereafter is provided by medical, social and educational services etcetera including charitable organisations and parent groups and all that.


    When the letter arrived again it stated autism with a high score of 10.  I have no idea what this means could anyone help?

    An 'Autism Diagnostic Observation Schedule' (or ADOS) score of 10 is the cut off point for autism meaning that your son has a high capacity for social functioning, as requiring minimum support, and anything above 10 (and I am assuming up to 20) involves a lower capacity, requiring anything from moderate to maximum support:


    http://www.marilynmonteiro.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/AC-and-Levels-of-Support.pdf


    Maybe get a copy of 'The Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome', by Tony Attwood, which costs just short of £20 if have the spare cash. It covers all the preadolescent and adolescent developmental stages of individuals on the socially functioning spectrum through into adulthood, and all the educational and social workarounds you and your son are most likely going to need to know and use, and a fair amount of resource options too. It is a little light on detail regarding adult issues, but there are many publications out there to choose from bu Autistic authors. 

    If that helps any?