It's a miracle I got in

........and probably will hardly manage to again, as I may have forgotten my password ready. After a zillion things going wrong.....including the fact that all my brilliant ideas for a handle were already taken. Great minds. 

I have not been diagnosed and won't be, I don't live in the UK and no doubt more ties to my lovely home country will be cut still further in the next year. 

It was just seen as craziness when I was a kid, in the 1960's. It could be a spectrum thing but it could be something else. The red flags for the A word for me are that I regressed at 18 months and no longer spoke using grammatically correct sentences. Tantrums and obsessions during childhood, being scapegoated at high school and repeatedly being criticised from student years onwards for not engaging in enough eye contact. 

But it is on the other side of the boot too as I teach at a high school for children who wish to specialise in the arts, and many are now getting diagnoses of dyspraxia, dyslexia as well as the odd autism I do feel the need to know how to work with these kids. 

I would love to hear from older people who are only now recognising the hidden thing after all these years. Or from other teachers also confronting similar things.

The most important thing is my art incidentally.

  • Try printing designs for Red Bubble. Everything seems to depend on algorithms, but one of my designs has become popular. The beauty there is that it is 100 percent print on demand, so there is no monthly rent to worry about

  • I tried selling handmade crocheted and knitted goods on Etsy and it did not work out, so instead make hand knitted or crocheted items for charity.  I am more of a crafter than an arts person, probably due to being poor at Maths but being very good at English, could not get the idea of perspective or geometric shapes, although I love mandalas and am making dream catchers for friends and family.  

  • Cloudy Mountains

    Kudos in spades to you for kicking the c**p out of that lowlife!! 

    I got that attitude from my family in a more veiled way after the issue reared its head after questions were being asked about someone else in the family. All of a sudden I was living in a dream world about my art aspirations, wasn't married and dressed goth because I was some kind of retard! ! It all lead ultimately to a massive falling out because it was still assumed after returning to the UK I still didn't want a job. I did not see them again for more than two years.

  • Hi Bardic Poet

    Just saw your post and responded. Leicester is not a million miles from one town I used to live in. We had an art group though only one of us got really noticed at the time and he was asked to design CD covers for a doom metal band. Another good friend went to teach abroad like me and he now self publishes SF on Amazon. 

  • I have just been diagnosed as being on the autistic spectrum, at the age of fifty one, two years ago I was diagnosed with Coeliac disease and more or less have handled both on my own.  I would love to meet up with autistic people in Leicester, but have had no response from the 'Monday Club', they are facing cuts due to austerity measures.  Anyway the good thing about being diagnosed is that I can come off anti-depressants after being on them for eighteen years for anxiety and stress, my liver was beginning to complain.  Now I am learning to handle being autistic ally aware, having coped with it unaware since birth.

  • Hi there I found this hard to read and think your an absolute inspiration. 

    I have 3 year old twins who have asd recently diagnosed, I worry about their future 

  • Trust me on this, there is a massive stigma about mental illness and ASD in my community and social group. The thing that really irks me about my particular situation is that when I was just "crazy", I was considered useful and fun. Since I've been diagnosed I'm far more calm and together but I'm seen as weak and dumb. Some people have shunned me outright. Some are family too.

    I hadn't been out in a few years and I decided to go out with an old friend as my anxiety has been low lately. All night he hustled money out of me. He'd have never tried it before my diagnosis. I confronted him (politely!) about it on the way home. He said "See I knew I shouldn't go out with you, because you are like THAT!". I asked him what he meant and he said "Autistic" with a big *** eating grin on his face, within about 3 seconds I had him pinned to the taxi seat, I rattled off every instance of what he'd scammed out of my pocket and what I thought of him. I then got him to pay every penny back. He thought he was going to take advantage of me because all of a sudden I'd become "retarded" in his eyes. My mom's friends all talk to me now like I can't even open up a tin of beans, for the past 20 years they've been coming to me for financial and legal advice! I've had countless instances of underhanded comments. A few instances of outright pisstaking and aggression. I'm not weak or dumb, so I dealt with them pretty efficiently. A few times it's come from my own father, but how do I deal with that!

    I've only told a few people but it's spread like wildfire. I live around a lot of ignorant people. There are the people who are "Daily Mail readers", lol, and the others that are "Guardian readers", lol again! The latter are either mocking or dismissive, the former are patronising or want to appear compassionate. Both are equally irritating and ignorant. I'm still the same person. "Crazy" was OK but Autistic, nah, not so much.

    Anyway enough of my ranting! None of my childhood traits have disappeared that I can tell. I've always stimmed, had an obsession with certain things, OCD behaviours and I'm also very uncompromising in certain situations. My temper is pretty good but when I do lose it, it's quite destructive. Lol, the part about bureacrats is very, very, similar to me. Very! The sorts of situations I imagine you mean still get me riled years after they've played out!

    I have terrible sensory problems, on the flipside of that though I also have wonderful sensory experiences. I've worked most my life though and held down a few long term relationships.

    I like art too. I can't draw, paint or design for *** but I can appreciate it! My release is music. I love programming synths, probably more than actually making a piece of music unfortunately! Creation is cathartic!

    Bit of a ranty post but trust me the UK can be very ignorant too!

  • I do hear what you are saying Cloudy Mountain. Now that there is not the inability to deal with it that came from family, it would be easier to do it for myself and keep the  knowledge  to myself or not,, delending. It eoukdbe difficult where I am though. And there is a lot more prejudice and stigma against what seems to be anything like mental illness here. I outgrew the most extreme things of my childhood which would have stood out as "not normal.' I was obsessed with letters of the alphabet, numbers, says of the week, there was the speech delay, massive tantrums, oppositional behaviour.

    I still get massively stressed in certain situationsa s stated before. Delays where trying to get somewhere, airport, metro being closed, being crowded in. Dealing with bureaucrats who may hold significant power over me such as employment in the past, residency rights can also bring out the worst in me.

    But I cannot report the massive sensory issues some do here though. And I have been in work continually since emigrating and am in a long-term relationship.

    I know I still occasionally get told I am rather weird and strange and always felt 'different,' etc etc. I

    I did get an an formal diagnosis from an old friend who happened to be a consultant psychiatrist. She told me I 'had done very well.'

    In painting I can experiment a great deal with pattern, reflective surfaces and I hope, communicate something to others too. I have always had plenty of other special interests too.

  • I can only second what people are saying here. The day I was diagnosed was a big turning point for me too. It gave me closure on a lot of things and avenues to deal with them. Did you channel your obsessions and compuslsions into art? It helps me immensely.

    Art and expression do seem to be a common thing in the ASD community. I have music. I had an ex who had ASD who was an artist and film maker. Funnily enough I didn't get my diagnosis until 15 years after we split up. We shared an eye for detail which made watching film and stage productions a shared interest.

    I'd try and get a diagnosis. It might answer a few questions for you.

  • Ah! I see  : )   Don't worry about it, I came on here not even having a clue how chat forums worked and I think my first thread title was something like 'How do you speak to people on here?" which is cringey now   : /    We live and learn! 

    • Thanks anyway for responding to this Endymion. I now see that I was not replying in the right threads, learning curves and all that. 
  • Speaking only for myself, I wanted the official assessment and diagnosis because I'd reached a point in my life where I simply needed answers. From that perspective alone, it's worked for me. Would I recommend a formal diagnosis over self-diagnosis for others? No, not based on the experiences of others I've read on here and of my own experiences post-diagnosis.

    I do have the answers I wanted / needed, as I said, but for those of us higher on the spectrum there seems little benefit other than that. There are no support services in most areas, information is very difficult to search for on your own with no guidance, and despite the higher profile autism itself has, Asperger's or higher functioning autism isn't understood by most.

    There does still appear to be a stigma associated with any autism diagnosis for this reason, people hear the 'a' word and make assumptions based on stereotypes of full-blown / lower-spectrum autism. Hence, I haven't disclosed my diagnosis to anyone other than my partner and adult daughter. 

    I can understand your reasons for not pursuing a diagnosis too, I can't see that it would confer any benefit to your art. It is worth learning more about Asperger's on your own though, for your own answers and peace of mind. The more I learn about it, the more I feel I'm finally learning that it's okay to be myself in many ways. It's given me more confidence in myself despite the frustrations of trying to sift the wheat from the chaff with regards to finding good quality, reliable information.

    If you change your mind about a formal assessment and diagnosis in the future you can always pursue it at that time. Whenever, and if ever, it feels right for you.          

  • When this thing came up a few years ago a counsellor told me it would never have hurt so much if there hadn't been any truth to it and yes, he said he thought he could see autistic traits in me.

    But as diagnosis goes, I am not sure how that would benefit. The awareness of autism is massive now and maybe there is less stigma. But from the art poiint of view: I would want my work judged by the craftsmanship, not forany special disability. I would feel so patronized if that was the case.

    We don't nudge Gates by his autism but for his acumen in business. Van Gogh was crazy but it is his genius we are interested in. We are interested in Jung's contribution to psychiatry, not the fact some experts say he suffered from childhood schizophrenia as a child. And so on. 

    All the same I would not wish any child to have come up against a host of misconceptions as I did, nor to have been bullied and scapegoated so much.

  • The most important thing to me, for peace of mind and the ability to lose myself in it, is reading. The only things that come close are art (although just for fun, not to your degree) and, weirdly, filing and cataloguing things. I can lose all sense and track of time during these activities. 

    I was diagnosed (Asperger's / High-Functioning Autism) in January, aged 44, and although I'm aware that I'm still at the early stages of learning about autism, it certainly has answered a LOT of questions and made a LOT of things suddenly make sense. 

    There have been a few bumps since diagnosis. Being informed that it's considered a disability for one. Learning that once you walk out of that assessment room, you're essentially on your own for another. The difficulty in finding good quality information and research papers too. Another was hearing my prolific reading described as 'reading behaviour'!!! Overall though I consider my diagnosis to be a positive thing as at least I do now have answers, and know what it is I'm dealing with moving forward. 

    I hope you'll find this forum as useful as I have, it's a very mixed bunch but I find myself recognising many of my traits in most people I've met on here. It's a nice feeling, and a change from any other social situation I've found myself in.