People who self-diagnose gaining access to services

A major autism organisation is giving access to groups/services for adults with Asperger's and high functioning autism to adults who self-diagnose.

Those who self-diagnose are highly motivated, unlike many adults with autism where motivation can be an issue.  They are more likely to attend groups than those with significant problems. These self-diagnosed adults as service users have a say in how services are run.  In this organisation, they want groups set up that exclude those with Asperger's and high functioning autism who have more problems than they do.

This mirrors what has happened in some online groups for people with Asperger's that have been dominated by those desperately seeking a diagnosis.

What other condition allows those that self-diagnose to be given access to services?  It could be argued that everyone as some autisitic traits i.e. is on the autism spectrum.  But surely the point of diagnosis is to identify those that are in need of support services.  To be given a diagnosis, there must be 'significant impairment'.  Many of those desperate for a diagnosis do not meet the criterea.  For many 'Asperger's Syndrome' seems a trendy diagnosis - it doesn't have the baggage of many conditions linked to the mind/brain.  They have little awarenees of the many difficulties faced by those living with Asperger's/high functioning autism.

I believe allowing people who self-diagnose access to services makes diagnosis meaningless.  In the long term, it is likely to have a negative affect on funding for services for adults.

What are your thoughts?

 

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  • one swallow doesn't make a summer........

    Does this totally not fit an ADHD profile, Hope?

    "moreover he has a sales job within which he is very successful; he has a girlfriend, and he is personable and is sure to do well whatever path he chooses to take, although he is not academic - much to the bane of his parents"

    I'm not sure what to make of all the personal stories of life with autism/aspergers I've read. Some may be unconvincing diagnoses. One book I think you should read is "Send in the Idiots - stories from the other side of autism" by Kamran Nazeer.

    Something NT Society expects of disabled people, not that they often give rewards or adequate recognition for the hardship endured - people who strive against adversity and succeed. There are numerous examples in the literature. To use the example you previously raised of dyslexia, some people have achieved great things despite it, and that wins recognition, respect and funding.

    Now I know that some people on the spectrum are going to have a really tough time achieving much because their symptoms are severe. There are others I think who do fight and achieve - there are plenty of books about it.

    But you seem to be saying anyone who is in any way successful hasn't got aspergers. NT Society is unlikely to be sympathetic with any disabled group that demands to be treated as helpless and dependent for life, if they cannot clearly demonstrate why they shouldn't be able to achieve.

    That may be behind adverse medical, DSL and benefits rejections. It is hard to accept  people who claim they have no way out of dependancy, however justified.

    And for parents out there, you've got to believe in some sort of future. For people with full autism or very marked aspergers that might be reality. But I think it is a flawed argument to present all forms of Aspergers as a no way out diagnosis. Or to claim anyone who does get somewhere was somehow down to over diagnosis.

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  • one swallow doesn't make a summer........

    Does this totally not fit an ADHD profile, Hope?

    "moreover he has a sales job within which he is very successful; he has a girlfriend, and he is personable and is sure to do well whatever path he chooses to take, although he is not academic - much to the bane of his parents"

    I'm not sure what to make of all the personal stories of life with autism/aspergers I've read. Some may be unconvincing diagnoses. One book I think you should read is "Send in the Idiots - stories from the other side of autism" by Kamran Nazeer.

    Something NT Society expects of disabled people, not that they often give rewards or adequate recognition for the hardship endured - people who strive against adversity and succeed. There are numerous examples in the literature. To use the example you previously raised of dyslexia, some people have achieved great things despite it, and that wins recognition, respect and funding.

    Now I know that some people on the spectrum are going to have a really tough time achieving much because their symptoms are severe. There are others I think who do fight and achieve - there are plenty of books about it.

    But you seem to be saying anyone who is in any way successful hasn't got aspergers. NT Society is unlikely to be sympathetic with any disabled group that demands to be treated as helpless and dependent for life, if they cannot clearly demonstrate why they shouldn't be able to achieve.

    That may be behind adverse medical, DSL and benefits rejections. It is hard to accept  people who claim they have no way out of dependancy, however justified.

    And for parents out there, you've got to believe in some sort of future. For people with full autism or very marked aspergers that might be reality. But I think it is a flawed argument to present all forms of Aspergers as a no way out diagnosis. Or to claim anyone who does get somewhere was somehow down to over diagnosis.

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