What is it with people?????? is she right?

My parnter is seeing a cognative therapist due to all the stress weve been uder the last few years,hes bee having paic attacks,anway first appointment was this evening and he was talking about family and everything and said we ahve a son with autism that has no diagnoses yet, apparently she said "autism can be cured" i dont buy this,and its rather annoyed me as i know its tosh!!!!!

How can someone like this practise? or do you belive it can be cured? i dont belive for one miute it can.

  • I suspect hes on the spectrum,he wont do the test though as ive asked him before,hes funny about thibbngs ilike that.

  • Former Member
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    MO4B

    You mentioned that your partner is having CBT. Has he (and/or you) tried the free online test at

    http://aspergerstest.net/aq-test/

    ?

  • Read Temple Grandin's book Thinking in Pictures recently, and she makes the point that there is a big difference between autistic/aspie traits, and the severe damage that some children appear to be suffering. My view is that to seek to cure the former is abhorrent, but to believe the latter is "just genetic" so no further action, is criminal negligence. 

    Autism (like many other conditions) is not a disease like flu, which you either have or don't have. Doctors go by the "clinical picture", which perhaps has loads of different causes and contributing factors. I don't think there is going to be much progress until researchers start looking at the subgroups, rather than lumping everyone together.

    Regarding MMR (which I have no opinion on, btw) TG apparently asked one scientist whether anyone investigating it had ever studied the regressive group of autistic children alone. The answer was no. 

  • I agree with some of what your saying,but i dont think it gets cured, how does she know her child wont sufbfer later on in life? diet or no diet?

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    It doesn't help when mothers like this one on youtube present their individual cases as proof of what they are saying.

    Her history is that her child developed a problem that looks like autism. After the child had it's MMR vaccine, after it was weaned onto solids etc, after it grew up and developed somewhat etc etc she observed the child's behaviour deteriorate. The child was given a label of autism. There is no definitive physical or chemical test for autism so there won't have been a categorical diagnosis.

    I think that she has done two things.

    1) She has been very focused on her child and has done everything she can to help the child with whatever problems it had. She may well have created a very autism friendly environment for the child.

    2) She has cleaned up the child's diet by removing a lot of chemical additives. The diet will probably be a Feinman type diet which has certain "aggravating" foods removed.There may well be something in the link between autism and diet as there are many reports of gastro-intestinal issues amongst ASD sufferers.

    The child's behaviour has improved following her intervention or because it progressed from the terrible twos or whatever.

    She does not appear to have done any harm to her child.

    If you take anything away from this you might copy what she did and your child might have fewer behavioural issues. It is just possible that her approach might benefit someone who genuinely has autism. It is equally possible that she is totally misguided and that her child never had autism.

    It certainly is true that an autistic child's behaviour can be positively influenced by looking carefully at the child's physical and social environment and that the more understanding you have of the sufferers point of view the better.

  • ah she said it,she even found him a link on utube about this womans kid that was apprently cured,im going to look at it in a min then i will give you the link lol

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    Autism is a lifelong condition that cannot be cured.

    However, the quality of life of a sufferer can be made to be relatively normal if the environment of the sufferer is made to be more autism friendly. Often the environment can be too noisy, too socially demanding and too difficult for an autistic person to have a tolerable life. Also, the sufferer can learn to become more aware of their own strengths and weaknesses and learn to avoid bad situations and to seek out better places to be. None of this is a cure but the quality of life can be improved.

    Is it possible that your partner misunderstood what the therapist was trying to say or took what the therapist said too literally? Your partner could take this topic back to the therapist to explore what the therapist was trying to say.

  • I don't believe autism can be cured.  I think it's been proven that early intervention can be helpful but this is not the same as a cure.  She is talking rubbish + should know better.  I don't think her comments would have been helpful to your partner.  Does he want to keep on seeing her after that?