New Statutory body as an alternative to the NHS for mental health and hidden disability

While relatively minor issues can be figured out, the reality at the end of the day is that the current crisis situation is totally unsustainable and further emphasises the need to “take the bull by the horns” in implementing innovative, fundamental, far-reaching and groundbreaking legislative changes where, yes, a revolution is exactly what is absolutely required, much needed and long overdue, where difficult decisions must be made, even if unpopular to some, driven by the kind of strong leadership that is exactly what is needed - while I acknowledge the comments made regarding various issues, the present situation must not be allowed to continue - my granny used to say that “there are limits to everything” and “what will a certain course of action lead to” and very often during my 30 years in supermarket retailing, our managers had to use their initiative in dealing with certain situations using common sense 

yep :-)

Yet, the model for best practice re autism already exists in NHS Scotland and spearheaded by the Scottish government - we have to ask why is this support not pooled nationally, even online, even internally via the NHS own systems, to people in England and Wales, where most support in England and Wales is restricted to local catchment areas and where both the NHS and/or other state bodies will refuse to fund private support, where they happily support all other manner of outsourcing - even private support requires a GP referral 

thanks but an apology not really necessary - I was stating it as s fact - to be open about it I've seen people who really do show dedication and people who really don't in that environment and people who once did ending up bot being able to.  It's an emotionally tough environment and that part of the work isn't really covered by the tick box criteria for management.  Ideally I'd see it that the actually diagnostics, treatment and maybe even surgery would increasingly go over to technology and free up the extra time and resources for the bit that tech can't do which is the human contact side of it.  Instead the tech side has increasingly become a means for the bean counters and the tin pot dictators to drain front line staff of even more time - in my opinion of course!!!

Phased said:

a bit "triggering" both professionally and personally. 

Sorry, I forgot about your connection to the NHS. I'm only talking about the system. Although I've had one or two bad experiences with medics, the staff have my gratitude and admiration for dedication under stress.

Hmmm... another topic very close to home for me and in truth a bit "triggering" both professionally and personally.  I do find it tricky talking about such things.  I feel the energy needs to be used on why it's happening rather than it happening if that makes sense?  And even better how to do something about it...

Phased said:

it's an appalling let down of the duty of care of the state as far as I understand it. 

It's not just mental health stuff, although that might be the worst. NHS hospitals all over the UK measure waiting times for gall bladder ops in years. Even urgent cases. I'm just picking that out of a hat because of a friend's experience. I'll bet it's plenty of other departments.

understood Alexa  I'm the sort of person to feel I should say sorry about that - dunno why but I am really drawn to want to do something about injustices of all sorts and this is "especially close to home" as it were. - it's OK for those of us who one way or another get private paid for diagnoses But for all the rest of the people it's an appalling let down of the duty of care of the state as far as I understand it.  Feels like national institutional gaslighting :-(

understood Alexa  I'm the sort of person to feel I should say sorry about that - dunno why but I am really drawn to want to do something about injustices of all sorts and this is "especially close to home" as it were. - it's OK for those of us who one way or another get private paid for diagnoses But for all the rest of the people it's an appalling let down of the duty of care of the state as far as I understand it.  Feels like national institutional gaslighting :-(

thanks but an apology not really necessary - I was stating it as s fact - to be open about it I've seen people who really do show dedication and people who really don't in that environment and people who once did ending up bot being able to.  It's an emotionally tough environment and that part of the work isn't really covered by the tick box criteria for management.  Ideally I'd see it that the actually diagnostics, treatment and maybe even surgery would increasingly go over to technology and free up the extra time and resources for the bit that tech can't do which is the human contact side of it.  Instead the tech side has increasingly become a means for the bean counters and the tin pot dictators to drain front line staff of even more time - in my opinion of course!!!

Phased said:

a bit "triggering" both professionally and personally. 

Sorry, I forgot about your connection to the NHS. I'm only talking about the system. Although I've had one or two bad experiences with medics, the staff have my gratitude and admiration for dedication under stress.

Hmmm... another topic very close to home for me and in truth a bit "triggering" both professionally and personally.  I do find it tricky talking about such things.  I feel the energy needs to be used on why it's happening rather than it happening if that makes sense?  And even better how to do something about it...

Phased said:

it's an appalling let down of the duty of care of the state as far as I understand it. 

It's not just mental health stuff, although that might be the worst. NHS hospitals all over the UK measure waiting times for gall bladder ops in years. Even urgent cases. I'm just picking that out of a hat because of a friend's experience. I'll bet it's plenty of other departments.