Am hoping this link will work...
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/index.html
Am hoping this link will work...
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/index.html
the autism vaccine link is mostly carried on by the american pro safe/anti vaxxers such has age of autism,generation rescue,autism mothers etc.but even they now say thermosil is not the cause that its to many shots to soon and aborted fetal material.
it will be soap or shampoo next
it does mean there is no link
these are all the studys that say there is no connection and only andrew wakefields that says it is.
the study may be a joke but that doesn't mean there is no link! i suggest that the application of vaccines is so disturbingly unnaturally freaky to so many autistic people that it can often "awaken" the autism in a person who was previously quite comfortable
I am autistic so are four of my 6 children i predate the MMR and my children were diagnosed before they had it.
The study is a joke in the autism community both he and jenny mccarthy.
There have been many studies to disprove the link and only one flawed study that says otherwise,wakefiled himself could not even replicate it.
He paid children at his sons birthday party £5 for there blood samples he performed all kinds of invasive treatments lumber punctures being one of them, he was paid by lawyers who wanted to make money through the vaccine.
No autism is not caused through vaccines.
Autism has been around a lot longer than vaccines
victor the wild boy of in 1797.
Peter the Wild Boy 1725.
there are many more.
vaccines are given around the same times has some see the triats of ASD,some new mothers who do not have another child to compare to will not see the subtleties of the traits.
Thermosil what some claim to cause the autism was taken out of vaccines in 2001 yet autism rates still rise( i can post lots of studies that debunk wakefield if needed)
when the thermosil was taken out anti vaxxers then began to blame the amount of vaccines given instead of what was in them, they move the goal posts almost constanlty
I have a group on facebook called mmr does not cause autism,it has the studies and many many links
Unfortunately, groups with extremist views and corner cutting scientists do us all an extreme disservice.
There is great merit in looking at the operation of the food and pharmaceutical industries and debating how their persuit of profit may be to the detrement of the health of all of us, not just the Autistic community. Personally I don't believe any of their actions cause autism, but I'm sure there are some exacerbating factors.
The loony fringe cut off all honest and open debate and you really d wonder who is actually behing their actions>
Hi Paul. I'm with you.
I don't want my son to be 'cured'. Cured of what exactly? His loving nature.....his literal sense of the world.....his frankness.....his passion for collecting anything and everything (which gives him immense pleasure).........I could go on. Basically, cured of himself leaving behind a child different to the one we love so much.
On the other hand of course, dealing with the many other aspects of his Asperger's is very stressful and upsetting both to him and us. We face many tears where he will have to learn how to deal with the difficulties and situations, in this world, that being an Aspie brings. I hate the fact that he will be expected to learn to fit into society rather than be accepted in society as he is but, until there is more acceptance, I fear that is what he will have to do.
What I do want is heightened awareness in society of the neurodiversity that is our society, obviously including Autism and Asperger's.
Hi HoxtonPaul and welcome to the Community!
We welcome everyone's views on any subject so I don't think you need to worry about not being allowed to post your opinions.
All we ask is that people respect each other's opinions and aren't insulting people who disagree with them - as I'm sure some people will.
With any emotive subject and there's few more emotive than the MMR study, we expect people to have strong opinions, just remember to respect those that differ.
(Not sure if I should post stuff like this???)
Andrew Wakefield - a disbarred doctor - is in with a small gang of cult-ringleaders. For cult seems to me to be the best term to describe these collectives of people. There is an organised group of obsessives, mainly parents, actively working against the Nas and its aims.
Funding is everything. Now more than ever. Yet the likes of Polly Tommey (The so-called Autism Trust) and the lunatic fringe that is the Age of Autism web site, are fanatically promoting the belief that vaccines, mercury and generally man-made things have caused Autism.
I can show you writing by such people, that all Autism is not hereditary. Some people at Age of Autism ringleader are seemingly fanatically fixated that there was no Autism before the 1930's. Then mercury in our environment and vaccine schedules started to make kiddies Autistic. Ever seen that French film about the wild-boy? A youth found in the 19 or18th century woods of France, totally feral. They had one in the UK found centuries ago, and who know how many others? Lets not mention Newton of course...
Books have been written, but of course such people are ignored. Why? Oh, that is easy. THE CONSPIRACY. For they have invented a name - BIG PHARMA!, and it is the name of the devil himself. Yes, the governments are in a conspiracy to hide the truth with Big Pharma! I attended a march and rally that Polly Tommey organised and heard one of these people point-blank say that there was a conspiracy against them.
They want to do nothing but cure children, and have little or no regard for adults with Autism. Some of us did try and speak at their rally, but they were literally shouted at to go away. That happened.
Beware then, the biomedical mafia, the genetic racial purists, and the almighty detraction of money from immediate support for people with Autism and their families.
(Not sure if I should post stuff like this???)
I think you are right, this subject is a big mess.
I think that to find the truth we need to focus on what is causing these children to regress rather than focusing on what is not.
I think your idea about annual recognition awards is a worthy one. Perhaps you would like to give us your ideas on a new thread so that others can discuss it without derailing this thread.
For the record the NAS does have Happiness Hero awards but I do feel this could be expanded on.
I suggest that people read the actual documents in the British Medical Journal.
http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c7452.full is the editorial.
http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c5347.full is Brian Deer's article.
I have read them both. The editorial is forthright in endorsing Deer's article and accusing Wakefield of fraud. Given the plaintiff friendly nature of our libel laws they must be very sure of themselves. Having followed the MMR affair closely for years now, I support the BMJ in their opinion and have written about it on my blog. http://actionforautism.co.uk/2011/01/06/wakefield-and-the-mmr-autism-hoax/
There are other articles planned. I believe another one will be published in next week's BMJ. I know this has been a very emotive and divisive issue within the autism community. Whether or not Wakefield committed fraud should not be allowed to obscure the essential truth that Wakefield was wrong about MMR and autism.
History is unfortunatly full of people who were persecuted for uttering what were considered to be heretic statements which were in actual fact true. I don't know what the truth is in relation to either MMR or the fraud allegations but I feel Wakefield is either mad, consumed by ego or a genius with a strong constitution and good PR. My wife has read the 'Callous Disregard' book and she says that if even half of it is true, the GMC should be disbanded.
For a similar case look up the story of Gordon RB Skinner (thyroid treatment), time will prove that he is actually spot on, again read his book.