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CEASE therapy or homeopathy, any luck?

terrorhawk

Hi everyone,

I'm new on here so please be gentle. 

I have a 9 year old daughter diagnosed with ASD when she was 4.  She has alot of the common problems-speech delay, global developmental delay, poor fine and gross motor skills, poor communication/comprehension, sensory problems...etc etc.

She used to be much more severly affected by her condition, especially her sensory ones which have subsided with therapies and general organic improvement and being desensitised by life in general.

A few years ago we had a consultation with Jonathan Toomey and picked up alot of tips about how to change our lives, a lot of which we did.  Prior to this we already had our daughter on high doses of fish oils which made a marked difference.

I came across homeopathy in the form of teething powders for grizzly babies (sure most people have used them).  My youngest has severe reactions to antibiotics and I needed to find any alternative safe form of medicine and remembered the teething powders I'd used on all my children with great success for many years.

I have since bought a few books, read articles online and bought myself a little kit to use at home.  I've used it countless times with excellent results.....how does it work?!  No idea!!!  To be honest, I don't care, I just know that on some weird level, it does!

Anyway, I have now stumbled across something called CEASE therapy which seems to be abit harsher than classical homeopathy.  I'm dubious about trying this as don't want bad reactions for my daughter but interested to know if anyone has used it and what the outcome was.

Thanks for any comments.

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  • Robert124 said:

    [quote][/quote]

    [quote] As far as faith playing a part in the healing process, yes I'd agree with you that it can be very important. However I very often only deal with the parents of my patients...and only online. So it's unlikely that any sort of therapeutic relationship could be contributing to the child's improvements (especially as the majority all already taking supplements etc...my little sugar pills are just one more thing that their mum gives them to take)[/quote]

    Alan 

    You are showing here an ignorance of the placebo effect.

    It does not matter that the patient is unaware of the nature of the treatment or even if they are being treated, if the person administering it knows then it will alter the outcome.

    There is a reason why science insists on double blind trials.

    I agree, double blind experiments are a very important scientific method.

    Without it the results of experiments would be biased and next to useless.

    Sometimes we measure the effectiveness of treatments by asking the patients opinion.  Such as depression.  This cannot be measured by instruments on a precise numerical scale, such as blood pressure.

    Instead we ask the patient how he feels and compare this to how they felt before. ( A subjective numerical scale may be used).  If we didn't have double blind experiments and the depression patient knew he was getting a vitamin pill rather than the product of the latest technology.  It's very likely his response to the experiment would be #£#_&&.

    When you say "However I very often only deal with the parents of my patients...and only online. So it's unlikely that any sort of therapeutic relationship could be contributing to the child's improvements" it demonstrates to me your ignorance of the scientific method. If the parents knew it was invalid, end of.

    Your data is invalid as the parents and yourself knew that the patient was being "treated" with a remedy and hence this made any data evaluated invalid especially as those analysing the data were also those carrying out the evaluation. If the person doing the evaluation, in your case the parents or yourself or both, knew which patients were treated and which were not then the study is seriously flawed and is scientificaly irrelevent.

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  • Robert124 said:

    [quote][/quote]

    [quote] As far as faith playing a part in the healing process, yes I'd agree with you that it can be very important. However I very often only deal with the parents of my patients...and only online. So it's unlikely that any sort of therapeutic relationship could be contributing to the child's improvements (especially as the majority all already taking supplements etc...my little sugar pills are just one more thing that their mum gives them to take)[/quote]

    Alan 

    You are showing here an ignorance of the placebo effect.

    It does not matter that the patient is unaware of the nature of the treatment or even if they are being treated, if the person administering it knows then it will alter the outcome.

    There is a reason why science insists on double blind trials.

    I agree, double blind experiments are a very important scientific method.

    Without it the results of experiments would be biased and next to useless.

    Sometimes we measure the effectiveness of treatments by asking the patients opinion.  Such as depression.  This cannot be measured by instruments on a precise numerical scale, such as blood pressure.

    Instead we ask the patient how he feels and compare this to how they felt before. ( A subjective numerical scale may be used).  If we didn't have double blind experiments and the depression patient knew he was getting a vitamin pill rather than the product of the latest technology.  It's very likely his response to the experiment would be #£#_&&.

    When you say "However I very often only deal with the parents of my patients...and only online. So it's unlikely that any sort of therapeutic relationship could be contributing to the child's improvements" it demonstrates to me your ignorance of the scientific method. If the parents knew it was invalid, end of.

    Your data is invalid as the parents and yourself knew that the patient was being "treated" with a remedy and hence this made any data evaluated invalid especially as those analysing the data were also those carrying out the evaluation. If the person doing the evaluation, in your case the parents or yourself or both, knew which patients were treated and which were not then the study is seriously flawed and is scientificaly irrelevent.

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