Stimulant Drugs to manage Autism

Hello, I would like to start taking a stimulant in order to help me with my autism but I’m not sure I will be prescribed any as most of the time stimulants are used to manage ADHD. I have spoken to my GP and they have referred me to see a psychiatrist. Do you think I will be able to get a stimulant medication without an ADHD diagnosis. I have an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis. Thank you for your time. 

  • I’m going to fact check you here. some people absolutely do snort Ritalin. notice I am not saying that I advise you to do so I certainly wouldn’t do that. i’m just saying that people do do it.

    here is a webpage that lists some reasons why that might be a bad idea. www.therecoveryvillage.com/.../

  • A poor, "from the hip" response there Rosie.....in my humble opinion.  I think of MODS as protectors and Angels....not as Enforcers and intimidators of ....well, NOTHING.  Not a single response...but you felt the need to -threaten, as I perceive it.

    Not cool.

  •  As a young man I tried amphetamine sulphate and was transfixed by now clear everything seemed to become and how I felt like I was "up to speed" or "with it" for the first time in my life.

    It has proven IMPOSSIBLE to repeat the experiment under the guidance of a health professional, and due to me wanting to excercise control over my dosage, and purity, I am reluctant to go the illegal route, so it still remains unavailable to me unlike RITALIN which I have obtained, but am reluctant to try because as fat as I know it cannot be insufflated (snorted).

    (I prefer my "expereimental" drugs to be snorted or smoked as one can control and evaluate dosage much more effectively over a short time).

    HOWEVER: (and to give this warning I need to break rule 13) it is my understanding that amphetamines cannot be used effectively for long periods, even in low doses in the hope of obtaining a permanent state of increased awareness, etc. Due to the body gets used to them, resets it's own internal checks and balances to suit, and then you face an unpleasantt time indeed if you stop taking them! This is why these drugs are not made available to us peons, as it is too easy to get addicted to them. 

    I've had good results with vitamin B improving my overall energy levels and I briefly tried "Smart drinks" when they were a fad in the early nineties, but the expense was high and obtainig them was difficult at the time.. I might well revist the smart drinks experience.

  • Morning Ian,

    Thanks for this post above....I am VERY interested in this subject area.  I had assumed that, when I stopped my ridiculously high alcohol intake (over a year ago), my ridiculously high caffeine intake (between 12-18 spoons of instant per day on average) would naturally drop away.  It has not.

    I will read the article with interest.

  • What follows is not to be construed as medical or legal advice, in accordance with Rule 13. Any responsibility or liability for anything whatsoever to or by anybody whatsoever is hereby disclaimed and denied. I note you have already consulted your GP and have access to qualified advice. Presumably, the moderators will not object to a reference to the literature, without further comment:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8918663/   " According to the scientific literature, 50 to 70% of individuals with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) also present with comorbid attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). From a clinical perspective, this high rate of comorbidity is intriguing. What is the real significance of this dual diagnosis? Is ADHD in fact always present in such cases? Might the attentional impairment reported among our ASD patients actually be a distinct trait of their ASD—namely, impaired joint attention—rather than an ADHD attention deficit? Could their agitation be the consequence of this joint attention impairment or related to a physical restlessness etiologically very different from the agitation typical of ADHD? The neurobiological reality of ASD-ADHD comorbidity is a subject of debate, and amphetamine-based treatment can have paradoxical or undesirable effects in the ASD population. Consequently, does a dual diagnosis, notwithstanding its currency in the literature, prevent us from shedding sufficient light on major physiopathologic questions raised by the clinical picture of ASD?"

  • You may find it helpful to read sections 1.4.13-22 of the NICE guidelines on treating autism in adults. https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/cg142/resources/autism-spectrum-disorder-in-adults-diagnosis-and-management-pdf-35109567475909 This may explain why your doctor might be reluctant to prescribe stimulants. And just generally it's a good idea to know the guidelines your doctors are working off.

  • Afternoon Anonymous, I am Number.

    I am not aware of people being prescribed stimulants just because they are autistic.

    It is apparent that I seem to be drawn to coffee, possibly to sooth some aspect of my autistic reality, but equally as probable, that I am just an addict who easily links onto a "thing" to do/consume.

    May I ask you this....."Why do you think stimulants will help you?"

    ....And one last thing, you will note the forum's moderators message below.....this forum is trialling this new rule, so open conversation about your topic is de facto banned.  I am careful with my language, but others here may be reluctant to respond to you...so please don't take it personally if you have little useful response.

  • Reminder of rule 13:

    "Users should not provide medical or legal advice to other users. Giving medical or legal advice can have serious consequences, even if you’re trying to help another member. Please suggest they get advice from a professional."