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Neurofeedback and autism

IntenseWorld

Just wondered why the NHS is advising against Neurofeedback when there are research articles saying it is very beneficial to autistic people?

http://publications.nice.org.uk/autism-cg170?utm_source=Linx+295+-+12+September&utm_campaign=linx295&utm_medium=email

http://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/docs/00/29/72/94/PDF/Kouijzer_et_al_2008_Auth.pdf (for instance).

I would have thought if it was a question of cost it wouldn't mention it at all as not many people have heard of neurofeedback and to my knowledge it's not even available on the NHS.  It appears to be listed along with potentially harmful therapies such as chelation.  Just wondered why.

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  • IntenseWorld said:

    You are missing the entire point of what I said.

    This thread is specifically about neurofeedback, not vaccines.  Evidence/information is relevant to people it's not about what's included or not in vaccines in any one country (and thimerosal is not the only additive people need to be wary of).  The information was not inaccurate.  It was given so that people learn to gain an open-mind and not automatically believe everything the authorities tell them.  However, this is totally irrelevant in this particular thread.  You clearly have an axe to grind - and you're not grinding it on me.

    I haven't asked why the NHS are not funding it, again you have misunderstood.  I have asked why they specifically advise against it when there is no proof it doesn't work (or is harmful) any more than there is proof that it does.

    I have not advocated anyone pay for anything.  I have merely asked a question.  Which you are clearly not qualified to answer and digress from.

    When you have found and read all the research, then you can come back and pick holes in it as to whether it is self-funded, peer reviewed or whatever - instead of merely speculating and offering supposition in argument.

    This article states that Neurofeedback has been researched on and off since the 1960s and there is still no scientific consensus as to whether it works or has any benefit whatsoever!  Research is still continuing...

    www.theverge.com/.../can-you-train-your-brain-to-heal-your-health

    ...Until there are conclusive, peer-reviewed, evidence based results from respected medical institutions, based on licensed ethical clinical trials, the NHS will not be offering Neurofeedback treatment any time soon!

    The NHS is not offering it because there is no medical evidence-base to prove conclusively that it does work or has any benefit to Autistic patients, or any patients for that matter!

    (And Thiomersal is NOT used as a additive in UK routine childhood immunisation programmes and it is NOT included in the MMR vaccine.  Therefore, posting links to an American website, i.e. the Centres for Disease Control or CDC for short, on a British forum does give a false impression that Thiomersal is included in childhood vaccines.)

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    (For the record, I work for the NHS in a Public Health role, I used to work at a NHS psychiatric hospital, and I have diagnosed autism myself.)

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  • IntenseWorld said:

    You are missing the entire point of what I said.

    This thread is specifically about neurofeedback, not vaccines.  Evidence/information is relevant to people it's not about what's included or not in vaccines in any one country (and thimerosal is not the only additive people need to be wary of).  The information was not inaccurate.  It was given so that people learn to gain an open-mind and not automatically believe everything the authorities tell them.  However, this is totally irrelevant in this particular thread.  You clearly have an axe to grind - and you're not grinding it on me.

    I haven't asked why the NHS are not funding it, again you have misunderstood.  I have asked why they specifically advise against it when there is no proof it doesn't work (or is harmful) any more than there is proof that it does.

    I have not advocated anyone pay for anything.  I have merely asked a question.  Which you are clearly not qualified to answer and digress from.

    When you have found and read all the research, then you can come back and pick holes in it as to whether it is self-funded, peer reviewed or whatever - instead of merely speculating and offering supposition in argument.

    This article states that Neurofeedback has been researched on and off since the 1960s and there is still no scientific consensus as to whether it works or has any benefit whatsoever!  Research is still continuing...

    www.theverge.com/.../can-you-train-your-brain-to-heal-your-health

    ...Until there are conclusive, peer-reviewed, evidence based results from respected medical institutions, based on licensed ethical clinical trials, the NHS will not be offering Neurofeedback treatment any time soon!

    The NHS is not offering it because there is no medical evidence-base to prove conclusively that it does work or has any benefit to Autistic patients, or any patients for that matter!

    (And Thiomersal is NOT used as a additive in UK routine childhood immunisation programmes and it is NOT included in the MMR vaccine.  Therefore, posting links to an American website, i.e. the Centres for Disease Control or CDC for short, on a British forum does give a false impression that Thiomersal is included in childhood vaccines.)

    ******

    (For the record, I work for the NHS in a Public Health role, I used to work at a NHS psychiatric hospital, and I have diagnosed autism myself.)

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