Sameness and it’s relationship to Sensory-sensitivity in Autism

I had a conversation with a parent in the week about how; my proclivity to automatically think negative- thoughts, is related to and aggravated by my dislike of change.

The thought was: An amalgamation of my general CBT experience and my recent research into repetitive-action in autism.  
The parent asked whether the stance I had was based in autism-literature, I couldn’t answer them directly, my only thoughts were my-own-anecdotes and my knowledge of CBT and Autism separate of each other. 

When I used to work in high-stress environments, I used to build my routines around avoidance, and I used to say that my ‘ikegai’ (reason for getting up the morning) was because I needed the toilet.
I used to make and find stability in things that I created to preserve the bottom-line and to reduce anxiety, these safety-behaviours then became a source of stability, to improve my mental-health I had to give up a safety-behaviour and a repetitive-action both.

I was wondering what the community thought of this matter? I have found that the literature is very sparse on this, where it is mentioned, it is clear that the findings are not clear-cut. Perhaps anecdotal-testimonies will illuminate what the literature fails to prove..:)

Parents
  • There's some interesting thoughts here! All humans seek a kind of enjoyment of life, or meaningfulness. But we have different ideas of what is enjoyable. And it's human to create habits or disciplines, force a break and replace them with a different habit or discipline. Depending on disabilities will dictate the degree we can do this. 

    What seems to happen, unfortunately is that our autistic talents and potential are often overlooked, there's a barrier with communication and so we might not get the education we need to reach our potential or the help into a direction we're suited for and it seems many of us end up in lives we wouldn't necessarily choose. This is no small matter from a series of consequence.

    Coping mechanisms have always existed for humankind. OCD is something Freud and Jung noticed with patients regardless of ability or neurology as a trauma response. And living a life one wouldn't choose can be the ground for all kinds of trauma responses.  Isolation being a trigger to almost all addiction. 

    I don't think we were meant for on-going high stress environments. History has some grim stories here. My father likes to say "what doesn't kill you makes you wish it would" (with a little laugh). 

    As for negativity and change, I'm not sure they're any more related than how one talks about the weather. From what we know, the non-autistic brain senses being like everyone else. Literally, all the time. Sameness is somewhat automatic - built in to the wiring as it were. And that social sameness can trigger a need for: something new! Something exciting! Something different. 

    We all need to feel grounded, but because it appears autistics are more wired to be in-tune with environmental surroundings (which in our modern situations are incredibly maddening) while the non-autistic brain has these strengthened neural pathways pruned for social surroundings. (I always count my ADHD friends as a wild card who can manage to speak both Au and NT). So this might dictate what makes us feel connected: The language of vocabulary and created meaning for the NT, and the ability to make connexions and analyse what is for the Au - these are some theories out there, but from a NT standpoint, not playing along with the expected social script and analysing something which lacks congruity can sound or come across as 'negative'. But if you're doing this with another autistic, well, take me off on a tangent! Yes please! This is neither negative nor positive, but just is. 

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  • There's some interesting thoughts here! All humans seek a kind of enjoyment of life, or meaningfulness. But we have different ideas of what is enjoyable. And it's human to create habits or disciplines, force a break and replace them with a different habit or discipline. Depending on disabilities will dictate the degree we can do this. 

    What seems to happen, unfortunately is that our autistic talents and potential are often overlooked, there's a barrier with communication and so we might not get the education we need to reach our potential or the help into a direction we're suited for and it seems many of us end up in lives we wouldn't necessarily choose. This is no small matter from a series of consequence.

    Coping mechanisms have always existed for humankind. OCD is something Freud and Jung noticed with patients regardless of ability or neurology as a trauma response. And living a life one wouldn't choose can be the ground for all kinds of trauma responses.  Isolation being a trigger to almost all addiction. 

    I don't think we were meant for on-going high stress environments. History has some grim stories here. My father likes to say "what doesn't kill you makes you wish it would" (with a little laugh). 

    As for negativity and change, I'm not sure they're any more related than how one talks about the weather. From what we know, the non-autistic brain senses being like everyone else. Literally, all the time. Sameness is somewhat automatic - built in to the wiring as it were. And that social sameness can trigger a need for: something new! Something exciting! Something different. 

    We all need to feel grounded, but because it appears autistics are more wired to be in-tune with environmental surroundings (which in our modern situations are incredibly maddening) while the non-autistic brain has these strengthened neural pathways pruned for social surroundings. (I always count my ADHD friends as a wild card who can manage to speak both Au and NT). So this might dictate what makes us feel connected: The language of vocabulary and created meaning for the NT, and the ability to make connexions and analyse what is for the Au - these are some theories out there, but from a NT standpoint, not playing along with the expected social script and analysing something which lacks congruity can sound or come across as 'negative'. But if you're doing this with another autistic, well, take me off on a tangent! Yes please! This is neither negative nor positive, but just is. 

Children
  • Wow, that response is something to be marvelled at, thank you..

    I often feel as if I am plenty-capable of sensing a thing, sometimes I may even sense too much, but I feel as if the great issue I have is manifesting that sense and making heads-or-tails of it. Often times my ability to understand my senses, comes down to how it fits in to the existing understanding that I have, if I haven’t mapped it I can get stuck. 

    For me understanding comes down to exposure, my awareness is the result of being perceived by others as odd and unrewarding, so I my most implicit ‘schooling’ has been in negative thought. So I have found that automatic self-deprecation tends to get me the furthest distance.

    I remember a few years ago, I didn’t go with a parent into my uncle’s-house to drop something off, I stayed in the car. 
    My parent ended up staying for an hour so my uncle was offended, as he assumed I didn’t like his house, but I thought she was only going to drop something off.  
    My mother started going to the house every week, I assumed I was better off outside because of the same reason and additional reason, then my uncle got more offended. So I told my parent to tell him I was just weird, and it sated his offence and safeguarded my routine, but then I just started use self-deprecation as a general behaviour.

    Often find that is is very difficult to process complex emotions in myself and others, I often just find a thing that seems to bridge the gap, regardless of what I find on the other side. In CBT that is called perfectionist-behaviour, that being the abandonment of excellence, for a refined system that offers no improvement. But I always had trouble fully-connecting to perfectionist-belief, because I do not believe in perfectionism, I feel incapable (on a functional-level) of excelling through spontaneity. 
    I have only just been diagnosed with ASD, and I already feel that it is more possible to explore different modes of language and communication, through investigation and exposure.