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psychologists & psychiatrists hard to understand, communicate with

ALADDIN

I find that psychistrists are either hard to communicate with or do not understand everything.

There is no real support especially in the N.H.S, it is not possible to get a diagnosis of dyspraxia on the N.H.S.

I have an ASD. The psychiatrist said "aspergers traits not a problem" which I know means borderline asperger syndrome. The letter from my GP says ASD. The diagnosis was difficult to understand, I had a 10 minute non-standard diagnosis. A person inexperienced would not understand the meaning of aspergers traits, especially without support.

Some people within the N.A.S, think people either have full traits of asperger syndrome or do not have asperger syndrome. I feel people treat me like experimental data.

My mother has not noticed any problems, except for dyspraxia which has caused me a history of problems. It is of little practical benefit.

Now, I have a complete understanding of dyspraxia, I had to go privately. It could be diagnosed by a clicical psychologist, educational psychologist, occupational psychologist.

I had a cheap deal but there were three faults, the fact I had got a Postgrad qualification without any support, the person I have worked in  a call centre as a market research interviewer and as a telemarketer, the other fault was an undertanding of the Autistic Spectrum.

Under the new diagnostic criteria for ASD, I would not get a diagnosis.

  • I have a diagnosis of dyspraxia ( quite badly). The note : from the psychiatrist says ASD. I have a borderline case of asperger syndrome, I am not an excellent communicator, just good and I like my rouitines (could be dyspraxia). My problem is dyspraxia, I do have a diagnosis of classic asperger syndrome.

    I did the ADOS test, I was fouind to have an ASD, close to the borderline(ASD/no ASD).

  • Maybe what you have is really dyspraxia and not Asperger's, you say you've never had a problem with social interaction, your AQ is only 25 (people with ASC usually score 32 or above) and as Longman says dyspraxia and Asperger's are similar, perhaps you were misdiagnosed and should have been diagnosed with dyspraxia.  You seem to be suggesting yourself that you don't match Asperger's traits.

  • Quote "The reason a lot of people with asperger syndrome might get tired working in a call centre all day is that they experience sensory overload. It is also hard work trying to compensate for communication shortfalls.

    Trouble is sensory overload isn't covered by the triad of impairments."

    I agree, as my senses and cognitive mind are working overtime in a social environment and I get exhausted or tired later on once the adrenalin has been soaked back into the body Undecided, my world is so complex (simple interactions need to be complex interactions, not in a slow way, my mind seems to always need a complex hold of a situation to over compensate for emotional interactions of others, my cognitive understand(detail, detail,) make things overcomplex for other people minds and they say I have communications difficults to compensate for there own lack of understanding). Think what I am trying to say, is my complex mind is my simple mind but simply to complex for others too see.  Money Mouth 

    I enjoy complex minds, I can sit and listen all day to some expert rattling on about something I don't understand and enjoy this, the only problem with this is my mind is full of informaton marked top secret Sealed do not open in front of a Nt. Talk only football and sex on TV. Tongue Out 

    Did anyone see the match arghhhhhhh run forest ! Laughing

     

     

     

     

  • The reason a lot of people with asperger syndrome might get tired working in a call centre all day is that they experience sensory overload. It is also hard work trying to compensate for communication shortfalls.

    Trouble is sensory overload isn't covered by the triad of impairments.

    What I said above about things the Triad doesn't cover wasn't meant to infer that you were aperger rather than dyspraxic.

    But I suspect the Triad of Impairments isn't as effective as a diagnostic tool when distinguishing asperger and dyspraxia because they are closely similar, and one of the key distinctions MEMORY isn't adequately covered in the Triad.

    My understanding is that people with aspergers seem to have good memory capacity and people with dyspraxia have poor memory function. But you could find you have good memory - does that really mean anything? I suspect the truth is the experts don't really understand either condition properly.

    The triad of Impairments is a diagnostic tool to distinguish autism from other mental health conditions. But dyspraxia possibly wasn't one of the conditions the triad was set up to distinguish.

    The tragedy however is that the diagnostic tool is being used to encapsulate what being on the spectrum involves in terms of day to day living.  But it clearly fails to cover a lot of day to day issues which the professionals (despite knowing the Triad is specifically diagnostic), aren't addressing.

    Its like saying the triad is a diagnostic tool but at the same time we cannot be bothered supporting any other aspects of being autistic - tough.

  • See,

    http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/fordyce-maxwell-it-seems-i-am-borderline-asperger-s-1-2807203

    My Autistic Spectrum Quotient is around 25.

    See,

    http://www.aspergerstestsite.com/163/interpreting-autism-spectrum-quotient-aq-test-results

    I have never had problems with social interaction.

    My dyspraxia is far worse than aspergers traits, some people who's main condition is dyspraxia have aspergers traits, some do not have aspergers traits.

    When I had my diagnosis of dyspraxia, my GP, said you do not have full traits, you have a boderline case of asperger syndrome.

    A lot of people with asperger syndrome would get tired and could not communicate on the phone day in, day out.

  • Which comes back to the question, while the Triad of Impairments (or it seems what the mods call DISCO) may be necessary as a diagnostic tool, it in no sufficient way describes the everyday experiences of those on the spectrum. But the psychologists, and psychiatrists and yes even NAS wont budge from using the Triad to define us.

    For one thing what is borderline? The traits do not grade off uniformally. You can be mild over most of them but have one or several severe, yet still be classed as bordeline. And where's the research? How many borderline, mild or able people on the spectrum are studied, observed etc? The group that are studied are at the more severe end, which is fair enough but it shouldn't totally exclude research at the milder end.

    Both ALADDIN and openheart are describing things the Triad doesn't cover. Yet they all seem familiar territory for people on the spectrum. But I guess its the usual story - the patients don't have an opinion.

    What a truly sorry state of affairs, and what a disappointment when it comes to the notion of professionalism....

  • My mother has not noticed any problems ~ my mother is in a denial bubble

     

    Postgrad qualification without any support ~ so did I

     

    the person I have worked in a call centre as a market research interviewer and as a telemarketer ~ you are in a controlled environment here

     

    the other fault was an undertanding of the Autistic Spectrum ~ ASD Aspergers high cognitive ability

     

    For me ASD comes down to low emotional coping ability, need for predictable environments (this can be were you are in charge), communication difficults, can be hypertalk(good for telemarketers), over communication. Sensory overwhelm,, basically you crash and burn by being overwhelmed as your cognitive ability collaspes due too EMOTIONAL PRESSURE, normally coming from NT bully or non-controlled stimulative environment.