Autism in Britain and Germany

Hello, 
I live in Germany but I would like to know
what the situation is like for autistic people in
Great Britain. I recently founded a self-help group
and am currently in Berlin trying to network with
other autistic people, self-help groups and
organizations in order to realize joint projects.
Personally, I would also be interested in which
projects already exist in Great Britain.

LG Madrugada
Parents
  • Hi :) I was actually in Germany when I first realised that I might be autistic. It was actually my dietitian from the UK though who first realised that I might be autistic though (I was still seeing her virtually). I then raised the possibility that I might be autistic with the professionals I was seeing at the time in Germany and the mental health ones agreed that it was quite likely to be the case, however the waiting list for diagnosis was very long. My GP knew nothing about autism and almost got mad at me when I raised it. What was great though was that there was a free advice service for autistic people or people that think they might me autistic in my area. I was able to have a meeting with them and spent almost 2 hours there - they ended up doing a preliminary assessment as well as giving me some tips on how to best cope and they even wrote a detailed report for the psychiatrist to recommend that I should be referred for diagnosis (weirdly the mental health team could not do that but I needed to find a psychiatrist... who didn't seem to think it really mattered if I was diagnosed or not... again I feel like she was not very aware of what it means to be autistic and how important it can be to be diagnosed even as an adult). I think there were also groups run for autistic people in my area by a specialised part of the university hospital but that was not accessible without an official diagnosis. I actually never made it through the German waiting list but I did get diagnosed in the UK recently. And I realised that there is no support available here post-diagnosis, which seems disappointing. I am not sure if that is better in Germany. What was great in Germany was this free advice service for autistic people - they were extremely supportive and also send me resources and would have continued to offer support had I stayed in Germany. I feel like it really depends on the person you are seeing though-  some individuals just seem much better informed about autism than others... whereas others just haven no clue... like the GP in Germany... who got mad that someone had suggested that I might be autistic and just completely dismissed it... He was a very good GP in many other ways so I think this was down to a lack of training.... 

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  • Hi :) I was actually in Germany when I first realised that I might be autistic. It was actually my dietitian from the UK though who first realised that I might be autistic though (I was still seeing her virtually). I then raised the possibility that I might be autistic with the professionals I was seeing at the time in Germany and the mental health ones agreed that it was quite likely to be the case, however the waiting list for diagnosis was very long. My GP knew nothing about autism and almost got mad at me when I raised it. What was great though was that there was a free advice service for autistic people or people that think they might me autistic in my area. I was able to have a meeting with them and spent almost 2 hours there - they ended up doing a preliminary assessment as well as giving me some tips on how to best cope and they even wrote a detailed report for the psychiatrist to recommend that I should be referred for diagnosis (weirdly the mental health team could not do that but I needed to find a psychiatrist... who didn't seem to think it really mattered if I was diagnosed or not... again I feel like she was not very aware of what it means to be autistic and how important it can be to be diagnosed even as an adult). I think there were also groups run for autistic people in my area by a specialised part of the university hospital but that was not accessible without an official diagnosis. I actually never made it through the German waiting list but I did get diagnosed in the UK recently. And I realised that there is no support available here post-diagnosis, which seems disappointing. I am not sure if that is better in Germany. What was great in Germany was this free advice service for autistic people - they were extremely supportive and also send me resources and would have continued to offer support had I stayed in Germany. I feel like it really depends on the person you are seeing though-  some individuals just seem much better informed about autism than others... whereas others just haven no clue... like the GP in Germany... who got mad that someone had suggested that I might be autistic and just completely dismissed it... He was a very good GP in many other ways so I think this was down to a lack of training.... 

Children
  • Hello Anna, thank you for your 
    detailed answer. For me, there were three things in
    particular that prompted me to get
    to the bottom of the matter. First
    when I met my best friend who is
    also on the spectrum, then a
    documentary on television and
    finally the fact that an autistic
    person asked me to what extent I
    was on the spectrum. I was also
    downright shocked at how little
    psychologists and psychiatrists
    know about autism. For example, one
    professional said that while she
    didn't know about autism, she didn't
    think I did. I'm just too present.
    Her referral to an ADHD clinic also
    led to a misdiagnosis. I was
    overloaded, the psychiatrist didn't
    ask any specific questions, so the
    decisive criteria didn't even come
    up.My second attempt was finally succes
    sful. I would be interested to know which
    counseling center informed you about
    autism. Were you on "Autism Germany"? When I received my diagnosis 15 year
    s ago, this was still possible with
    a waiting period of about 6 months.
    All you would need to know is that
    you might have autism and where to
    find a professional. There is now a
    huge need for diagnoses, but no
    contact points have been added. So
    you either don't get on the waiting
    list at all or you have to accept
    waiting times of more than three
    years. For example, a friend of
    mine would have to drive about 500
    km to have you diagnosed. Incidentally, a friend of mine was
    asked a long time ago what a
    diagnosis would do for him, since he
    was now an adult. There is also no psychological
    support after the diagnosis. If only
    because of the fact that the
    specialists are not familiar with it.
    One can only hope that one knows
    someone within the community who
    might have a tip. It's definitely
    no better here than in the UK. However, my family doctor is open
    to the topic of autism. The self-help groups in Berlin
    that I know are accessible to
    autistic people with and without
    a diagnosis. Only the number of
    participants is partially limited. Would you like to tell where exactly
    you are in Germany?