Referral to social and communication difficulty pathway, what to expect?

Hi everyone 

Im new to all this so please bear with me if I don't explain things correctly. 

My 6yr old has always had difficulties. School recognised this in his first year and he currently has an IEP in place.(learning difficulties)

As my son is getting older I'm finding his meltdowns really difficult to handle, he really hurts when he lashes out as its often aimed at me or his little sister.

Because of the meltdowns I spoke to school regarding them and also took a list of my other concerns with me (social difficulties-strange eating habits-attachment to a blanket-very emotional-low self esteem-thinks everything is real like Spider-Man, cartoons etc- delayed speech as a child, there is a lot more things but I have just given these few as a guide to my concerns)

The school SEN arranged a few meetings with me and advised me to go to my GP, which I did and I was told there was nothing he could do and if I needed help I had to go back to SENCO, so off I went.... We had another meeting and we filled a CAF form in, which then resulted in a TAC meeting at school with the SEN, Health visitor, School nurse, IFSS.

I have received the TAC meeting record in the post and it states that they are referring him to the social communication difficulties pathway for assessment. I'm a bit unsure on what to expect?

The thing is, my son is very violent at home, a lot of the time it is just constant threats and no actual violence, but on occasions he does lash out and gets very stressed, but he is totally opposite at school, he is very quiet and they say they don't see any of the behaviour I have mentioned Apart from his social difficulties. I have explained that it is mostly only on school days that he is so stressed and lashes out, he begs me not to take him to school because he hates it. He hates the dinner hall as he says it too loud for him (so doesn't eat much as he has to leave), he is very funny about toilets, there is only 1 he will go to at school and if someone is using it or it is dirty he will wet himself rather than go to another one, if he has a different teacher he wets himself.. But he's never violent like he is at home.

I don't understand why he is so violent, we don't watch violent tv, DVD etc, there is no violence in the household what so ever, I don't understand why he gets the violent thoughts and outbursts from?

I don't understand why he can be so different in school settings?

can a child with autism hold their behaviour together in different situations?

IFSS has advised me to join "solihull group" to gain support? What is this? Has anyone ever done this? What does it involve? Is it a parenting course? I feel that because I have said I'm finding his meltdowns hard to handle that they think I'm inadequate as a parent.

Im sorry to ramble on but I am so confused, I know nothing regarding autism, and I'm unsure of what to expect, I'm also worried that because he holds his behaviour together at school that they may think some thing is wrong at home.

I have someone from IFSS coming to our home to speak with us and my son in 2 wks as they said his input is needed for the CAF forms.

I really just want to ask if anyone thinks I have reason to think Autism? and what am I to expect from an assessment, I am lead to believe that it could be as long as 18mths before I even get an appointment, why does it take soooo long?

Confused Frown

sorry if I don't make sense x

  • You say he has an IEP, but does he actually have a statement?  With a statement the parent gets input on what their child needs and whatever ends up on it is legally enforceable with the school.  It is also reviewable annually (and possibly on request if things are not working) to get amendments needed.

    You can apply yourself through your local council it doesn't need to be done by the school.

    The school could supply your son with ear defenders to wear in the canteen and could sit him in a quiet corner.  Poor little lad, no wonder he is coming home aggressive after being forced to stay in an unendurable situation to eat.

    A child does not need a diagnosis to have a statement, although obviously it helps strengthen the case.

    The school sound very cruel having that attitude and if a child has special needs they have to cater to them whether there is a statement or not.  Can you afford to get a private assessment?  You could still keep him on the waiting list for the NHS one as sometimes the NHS doesn't accept private ones, but the school should.  It would cost about £600-700+.

    This website might help: http://www.ipsea.org.uk/contact-us

    They know the law and there is lots of helpful information on there.

    With the videoing, could you set up the camera/phone on a tripod or surface at the correct height ready to just press the button to record when he meltsdown? If you are not holding it he might not notice so much and you could be seen in it trying to placate him and how violent he gets then.

  • Thank you to you both for taking the time to reply to me.

    in reply to you both, school is only interested at the minute with giving him extra help with his learning, he gets 2 1/2 hr sessions a week with a support teacher, he also used to go to the year group below him to do most of his learning as the school says this is where he is mentally? Also they have stated that they wish to keep him back a year when he returns back to school in September as they think that he will not cope with the structured environment of the year 2 classroom, something which I'm a bit unsure how to feel? I don't want him to be picked on even more when the children notice, as we have had loads of problems with him being bullied. 

    the school aren't willing to give him a quiet area or somewhere to relax as they say that it is giving him special treatment, same as the food hall, I have requested that he eat somewhere he feels comfortable and I was told that they didn't have the staff  and didn't want him to do that as it would make it harder for him to get used to it! Basically all they have done is get a dinner time supervisor to check on him to see how much food he has eaten before letting him leave. 

    it seems to me that until I get a diagnosis the school isn't willing to put any special measures in place for him, it's very frustrating :-( 

    were currently on the waiting list for him to be assessed but I'm told it will be at least another 18 months. 

    Im worried about getting him back to school after the holidays as we have found it very difficult in the past..

    i have another meeting with SENCO and other authorities in September so I think I will bring the subject up of a quiet place for him again and see what they say this time, when the school is confronted in front of other authorities maybe they will be willing to Make small changes to help him more. 

    also I have tried several times to video him when he has his meltdowns and no matter how conspicuous I try to be he always notices and runs and hides. I will however keep trying. 

    Thankyou to you both 

  • There are a significant amount of autistic traits you mention, so I would get him assessed asap as a diagnosis will open doors and make it easier to get the right supports.  I can't believe that the school haven't provided him an alternative place to eat his meals but as a lot of things don't ask don't get, so I would suggest you write to the school formally requesting they do this.  Why should he go hungry because the environment is intolerable for him!

    It's very common for autistic children to hold their stress in at school and release it at home, search on this website (NAS) "different behaviour at school and home" and you will see a whole page of information on it.

  • Hi + welcomeSmile.  No-one can here can definitely say whether your son is autistic or not but it's clear you have concerns + I think you should continue to push them with the professionals.  I can't answer all your questions, but I'm sure others will be along to help.  In answer to 1 of them : yes, children with autism can keep everything bottled up at school + then release all that massive amount of stress when they get home.  There are letters on here about it.  It's obvious from what you say that he hates school + has sensory difficulties with it.  What support does he get there - is there anywhere quiet he can go if he needs a bit of time out?  My son's an adult now + always went to autism specific schools which helped him a lot.  I know he would never have survived in mainstream, even with a teaching assistant who understood autism.  It can be helpful to all concerned if you cd video him at home to prove how he changes when school's finished.  This must be such a difficult time for all of you, but keep at it.  If he is autistic then he needs that diagnosis to get the support he needs educationally.  If you firmly believe he has autism then check out the home pg + the posts for ways of helping him.  He will respond to a set routine.  Some parents use a pictoral timetable so the child can see what s/he is doing nxt.  If he has sensory issues with noise or bright lights,or textures, or certain smells then take these things into account with his timetable.  Wishing you all the luck in the world.