Fighting a loosing bettle help pls

Hi I was so relieved when my son was diagnosed with autism and adhd, considering when he was 18months old I asked my health visitor if he was autistic. It has  been a very very long road to diagnosis.

His psychiatrist diagnosed him then refered him to tier 2 cahms, he has recieved no help from anyone but the school since diagnoses. One night he was having a very major meltdown and he was swearing badly at me whilst crying and I think it was tears because he didn't want to be saying these things to me but couldn't control himself. He then started talking about self harm and comiting suicide, I was beside myself with worry and didn't quite know where to turn, I opted to call social care and ask them for help for him, I explained everything to her and whe said.... Oh it sounds awful poor you, anyway its half past 5 and there is nobody in the office I will pass on the message tomorrow. I couldn't believe my ears, she gave me no advice and didn't suggest who to contact. I called the police, the doctors and others I could think of, by that time he had worked himself up into such a frenzy he was exhausted and fell asleep. I spoke to Bucks carers the next day who called social care for me and also his psychiatrist, who informed her that he was refered to tier 2 cams rather than tier 3 because he showed no signs of his autism effecting his mental health. Now I have told her about his suicidal thoughts and his anger and his meltdown and the fact that the following day after a meltdown he suffers with terrible stomache aches and headaches ect. Could you pass on your oppinions as to whether I should be pushing for him to be placed in teir 3 and actually recieve help or was she right to put him in tier 2, and what is the difference between the two. I feel like I am fighting a loosing battle and any and all advice would be very much appreciated xx ty

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  • hi mum of 4 boys,

                              you are certainly not alone in your frustration about the help that your child is recieving for the problems hes having at the moment. its absolutley terrifying to think that your child may seriously harm themself, i think it disgracefull that no one  could point you in the right direction of someone who could help you when you and your son  needed it. it seems unfortunatley that a lot of these services which are set up to help have become quite indifferent and lost all ability to empathise.

    CAMHS has a 4 tier system:

    Tier 1: consists of non specialist primary care workers such as school nurses and health visitors working with, for instance, common problems of childhood such as sleeping difficulties or feeding problems.

    Tier 2: consists of specialised Primary Mental Health Workers offering support to other professionals around child development; assessment and treatment in problems in primary care, such as family work, bereavement, parenting groups etc. This also includes Substance Misuse & Counselling Services.

    Tier 3: consist of specialist multi disciplinary teams such as Child & Adolescent Mental Health Teams based in a local clinic. Problems dealt with here would be problems too complicated to be dealt with at tier 2 e.g. assessment of development problems, autism, hyperactivity, depression, early onset psychosis.

    Tier 4: consists of specialised day and inpatient units, where patients with more severe mental health problems can be assessed and treated.

    I would say that you should be pushing for Tier 3

    I hope this helps

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  • hi mum of 4 boys,

                              you are certainly not alone in your frustration about the help that your child is recieving for the problems hes having at the moment. its absolutley terrifying to think that your child may seriously harm themself, i think it disgracefull that no one  could point you in the right direction of someone who could help you when you and your son  needed it. it seems unfortunatley that a lot of these services which are set up to help have become quite indifferent and lost all ability to empathise.

    CAMHS has a 4 tier system:

    Tier 1: consists of non specialist primary care workers such as school nurses and health visitors working with, for instance, common problems of childhood such as sleeping difficulties or feeding problems.

    Tier 2: consists of specialised Primary Mental Health Workers offering support to other professionals around child development; assessment and treatment in problems in primary care, such as family work, bereavement, parenting groups etc. This also includes Substance Misuse & Counselling Services.

    Tier 3: consist of specialist multi disciplinary teams such as Child & Adolescent Mental Health Teams based in a local clinic. Problems dealt with here would be problems too complicated to be dealt with at tier 2 e.g. assessment of development problems, autism, hyperactivity, depression, early onset psychosis.

    Tier 4: consists of specialised day and inpatient units, where patients with more severe mental health problems can be assessed and treated.

    I would say that you should be pushing for Tier 3

    I hope this helps

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