PIP CON

As some of you are aware, I had my PIP assessment this morning.  And I'm not happy.

A few weeks ago I completed a very full application form describing which parts of life I have difficulty with.  And  what I don't suffer from.

The face to face interview this morning concentrated on those aspects of life I'm ok with and ignored due to lack of time any of my problem areas.

An analogy would be someone going to A&E in agony due to a dislocated shoulder.  And the doctor doing a full medical examination of the whole body, except for the injured shoulder.  And then declaring that the patient is in perfect health.

  • The person you met yesterday will have filed their report. Your case then goes onto someone else who looks at all of the evidence and decides whether the benefit will be awarded or not.

    Just for future reference as hopefully you'll be applying for your renewal in a few years time Slight smile its helpful if you hand in your supporting evidence, such as highlighted GP notes, when you send off your application and you make it clear what bits of the evidence relate to what sections. 

    E.g I often struggle with communication. I find telephone calls overwhelming and avoid them. This is evident in the email from xxx, dated xxx where they clarify this information and that I don't want to be included in any telephone lists at work. Furthermore, page xxx of my diagnostic highlights how I find group situations incredibly stressful as  due to sensory overload and anxiety around misinterprinting the situation I am unable to process information in a timely manner, which means I find it very difficult to respond to others in these situations.

  • I will wait and see.  

    But at the end of the interview I was told that they would be contacting my GP for a report and the Autism diagnosis service.  Before any decision is made.

    However this morning I received a text from the DWP informing me that they have already received a written report on my PIP assessment.

  • Hi, 

    Completely understand your frustration, I also had an assessor that focused on what I can do not what I can't I assumed that was because they had letters from specialists regarding the physical problems. I pointed out on my form that I am extremely nervous around unknown people men especially (ptsd following assault)  I was given a quiet young lady who I wasn't as nervous around ( thought they were being helpful ) but was marked down as I wasnt as nervous! 

    I would suggest maybe calling and asking why the issues that affect you weren't covered ( I know it was due to time ) but since all calls are recorded it shows that you have questioned this should you need to appeal. 

    I did get awarded pip at standard daily living rate based on medical reports but still got nothing for mobility and my appeal was rejected.

  • (...An Hour later, perhaps I should add something...

    OBVIOUSLY any "Official Complaint" should be made AFTER any Official Letters recieved about the matter contained a grievance /disagreement about the matter. Try to get it in quick before Times expire, though.

    ...But this is another matter/tactic (/Con) altogether, which I would not discuss here...E.g. Posting out a letter fifteen days later which states that "There is only Seventeen Days to Reply from the stated Date of this letter.". I am not discussing that here so there.)

  • You haven't received the results of the assessment yet so how do you know they're going to declare you in perfect health? How does it help you getting frustrated and angry at the system when you don't even know what there decision is yet? 

    I can understand your worries as the ones who tend to post about the benefits system are the ones who are aggrieved (whether justified or not), therefore, there doesn't tend to be a balanced account of peoples experiences. I let these stories get to me when I initially applied, which made the wait between my assessment and the letter stating I'd been awarded the benefit torture. I lost all of those days to worry needlessly. I also noted there was another poster like you a few months ago. She applied for the benefit for her daughter and got incredibly frustrated and angry posting about how she was sure it wouldn't go in her daughters favour when it did.

    The report could have been in your favour,  do you need to complain when you don't know what the assessor has said yet? Would it not be better to wait to find out if you actually have grounds to complain?

  • ...Also put down how You WOULD have acted at such times given whatever happened. e.g. - "I would have said that I was -----, but I was not asked about ----." Be calm but put anger into it. If NAMES are taken (the Name of the interviewer) then this helps somewhat.

    I am out of suggestions, now. (I am thinking of the User here named "Plastic" but cannot "mention" using this old device...sorry.)

  • Greetinds, Me 'again', Sir...

    As You may have seen, I replied to your previous Thread last night. I worried about it, I did not know why, and thought of a thing to write to-day upon it. Some coincidence that I get chance to log on (My so-called Brother is out) and as I do I see this...!

    Upon the other Thread I said that the general view in this Forum is not to complete any forms 'by oneself'. But I was also wondering if this was a new tactic (evil), by scheduling SURPRISE interviews which did not allow the interviewee time to do anything but attend... feeling pressured, flustered, and likely to fail...?

    Now I have my answer, perhaps? This is not fair, and not right. BUT I might have some useful advice to try. This is something which I am currently "trying" myself at DWP, so I do not know how it may turn out.

    They just keep prevaricating (delaying). What You had to do, and especially what has just been done - *as You state it here* - ... Note and Write it down, in linear order - form, last-minute interview, no support, problems ignored - ...Put this in a Letter and send it to as many "Complaints Departments" as You know of that are dealing with Your claim.

    If feeling treated unfairly, if feeling a  "CON", then put that in your complaint --- The thing to know is to present the entire business in a "calm" and logical manner, e.g. "it was as if this entire interview was an attempt at conniving Me", or calm words like that. (!) This sounds stupid (maybe?) but it works. Repackage all that has happened in a manner pretending to be a Lawyer and just expose their hidden intent using their own terms.

    This Post is LONG... I have to end it, now...