Do non Autistics intuitively "know" how to act and communicate?

NAS39246 said. “You are so wrong.

It was not me that said "Normal people appear to know intuitively how to communicate and Autistic people do not". It is the editor of this website that say's this on the home page.

I was arguing against it.”.

Go argue with him then. We are not responsible for his or her words, Hell they don’t even bother to come here anyway, 

GO away,,,you did promise. But you won’t. You are on a roll now, 

go forth and multiply. Politely of coarse. 

you are a wind up merchant, nothing you have said has been kind or if any real value, now please do as you said. LEAVE, of coarse you now have a response you can have a little fight with so you won’t,,,will you? NO, 

NAS39246 said:

Sorry i do not understand your outburst nor what my Mother has to do with this.

You don't understand much. Ask your mother, I've heard she's quite experienced.

NAS39246 said:

Now i apologise for upsetting you.

You didn't upset me. Lol, I had fun.

NAS39246 said:

I am going to leave now, but please understand if i, as a neurotypical, was to speak to anyone the way you spoke to me i would be taken away with handcuffs on.

Hahaha, OK don't let the door hit you on the way out. Lol, you wouldn't be led away in handcuffs, stop being so silly. Is taking the piss out of an idiot a crime? Bye.

Just go away.

“It seems I have upset people on this forum.

I apologise for this and it was not my intention.”

So telling someone they are wrong despite them trying to help by giving advice that’s ok?

 By disagreeing with anyone who at least tried to explain who we are and why we struggle, you just disregarded every word any attempt st giving you an insight to how we struggle in our daily routines. 

You are a being, your just not a very nice one, you still have not said why you need answers, are you just bored?

 If you really want to understand about autism then please open your mind not your mouth.

 Listen and hear our words before judging us, you have said you have difficulty in accepting us, you state psychiatric experts are wrong, what gives you the right to discount them?

 Your a taxi driver, I am a ground worker, I can only tell you what I think, I do not take kindly to anyone telling me I have no right to exist, go pick up a fair and tell them you are now an expert on autism, and that they aren’t all non verbal hand flapping individuals, they can also out talk you, correct your spelling and grammar. Tell you to take a hike and basically look after our own. 

We are no better than everyone else maybe?

 Oh to think how lucky we would be to be considered as vitriolic as the majority. Can I have a NT achievement badge?

I can adopt pretty much any type of character when I need to, right now I am being a defensive mean nasty neurotypical type, I work with many so have got it down to a fine art. Lol.

You are so wrong.

It was not me that said "Normal people appear to know intuitively how to communicate and Autistic people do not". It is the editor of this website that say's this on the home page.

I was arguing against it.

Sorry i do not understand your outburst nor what my Mother has to do with this.

If you re-read what i said in my OP, i was actually not saying the things you attribute to me.

Therefore everything else you said after that was completely wrong.

However you have gave me a very good insight in to something i did not expect to find, and unfortunately i was completely wrong earlier.

Now i apologise for upsetting you.

I am going to leave now, but please understand if i, as a neurotypical, was to speak to anyone the way you spoke to me i would be taken away with handcuffs on.

"maybe what is what is trying to be conveyed by NAS39246, is either: 1 - That not everyone who is NT is automatically good and well with Social Interaction...? Or - 2 - There are other diagnosis which apply to "Social Communication Difficulties" other than "Autism"... Or -3- The fact that, under certain circumstances, a person will not be physically able to speak up at all, and this is what "Social Communication Difficulty" (including Autism) sort of means...?"

...I wrote this before. Before you leave, please tell me if I was correct or not, Thanks, if that is okay...?

Could a moderator please just remove this thread.

It was not my intentions to upset anyone, nor become upset.

Perhaps it would be best if the thread just got removed and i will leave everyone in peace.

Many thanks

It seems i have upset people on this forum.

I apologise for this and it was not my intention.

I will not bother anyone here again.

Sorry

No problem LW! It was blatantly obvious he was here for a rise. There was no reasonable discussion there. Sometimes we have to let these things become irrelevant or we'd take them seriously!

hi cloudy,,thanks for that, made me chuckle a lot. Yes the OP was just winding us up. I for one needed to vent and really was hoping for a heated debate Lol. 

If anything can be rescued from all this then it helps to show how some react dismissively towards us, be warned friends there are beings out there that enjoy being rude and dismissive as a means of achieving enjoyment.

I like the fact as it went on everyone was polite, even though they were being denied an exhistance.

much respect () () ()

Um... to anyone reading... I usually do not post into "heated" Threads, but maybe what is what is trying to be conveyed by NAS39246, is either: 1 - That not everyone who is NT is automatically good and well with Social Interaction...? Or - 2 - There are other diagnosis which apply to "Social Communication Difficulties" other than "Autism"... Or -3- The fact that, under certain circumstances, a person will not be physically able to speak up at all, and this is what "Social Communication Difficulty" (including Autism) sort of means...?

NAS39246 said:

I read on this website that "Other people appear to know, intuitively, how to communicate and interact with each other, but Autistics do not", but believe this statement to be completely untrue in so many ways.

You have proved this point in a stunning fashion. Your communication and reasoning skills are stunningly bad. I'd imagine this is why you are trying to garner attention past midnight on a forum for Autistics. It must be terribly lonely.

NAS39246 said:

I do not believe that there is any one way to interact and communicate and nor do i believe anyone, even non autistic could possibly be thought of as someone that "knows" how to act and communicate in every given situation.

Yes, this is called a subjective matter. Nuance. Your mother sure got communication wrong, when she decided not to fake her usual headache the night you were concieved. Sorry that was rude, I think, or maybe I don't know how to communicate.

NAS39246 said:

I believe making wrong statements like this just causes confusion.

I don't agree with the statement you quote, it's a generalisation. It's also a generalisation to assume that every Autistic person holds this view or "neurotypical" person either.

NAS39246 said:

Would do you think?

I think your mother should have taught you to spell.

NAS39246 said:

Do you think there are people out there that just intuitively "know" how to act and communicate?

Nope, I don't. All people are different. Autistic and "neurotypical". It's a bit odd that you don't understand the way the world works.

NAS39246 said:

In that case, what happens when they come across someone that has more experience and is more intelligent than them?

Anything could happen. Literally anything. Experience in what? Intelligence measured by what metric? I have a high IQ but I couldn't help making jokes about your mother.

I've got to ask why you are here. I find it hilarious. Had a few too many beers tonight? You are either trolling or seriously here to get us to answer questions about you, why don't you ask your mother, if she isn't busy entertaining Spanish sailors. Lol, sorry I couldn't help myself. I'm not going to feel bad about myself, I really don't give a *** what you think. I just don't get why people are taking you seriously.

I would prefer it if there was a Closed section of this Forum for autistic people only where we could talk freely without being bothered by nosey neurotypicals.

Maybe you cannot argue with a closed mind, but you could argue with the professional that labelled you Autistic and gave him reasons why you are not autistic.. Had you done so then he would not have diagnosed you Autistic.

NAS39246 said:

problem i have in accepting high functioning people such as yourself as Autistic.

So you are some sort of 'flat earther' of neurological conditions?

I myself think the moon is made of cheese, that the earth was made in six days, and that Father Christmas visits me once a year.  And I have some evidence for all these, so I know your views overule all others.  So thank you for convincing me I am not autistic despite medical and psychological opinions.

Or perhaps I think your thinking is a bit suspect. (and that is my last word on this as one cannot argue with a closed mind).

You do seem to have a problem as you have said accepting anyone called high functioning autistic, may I remind you we did not ask to have a label, Society decided that if we or a number of individuals in some way did not fit the normality they themselves label as neurotypical then we must have a label to receive any level of acceptance. We must be labelled so the mass population can understand why we are not as they say the same as them.

 We just want to be allowed to be ourselves, we do not intend harm to anyone, we try to integrate as best we can. We are not to be blamed if we can not communicate as others seem to be able too.

 Society makes the rules, the overall normality as prescribed by the masses as being normal and acceptable.

 We are no threat to anyone’s existence.

you have not tried to answer my questions, why do you feel a need to find out if we can or cannot communicate with others?

 We can all type whatever we like in here, but face to face it would be so very different, even you may instantly notice we are not as you perceive normal or indeed one of your passengers, we are varied, if we had any choice maybe we might have twenty different labels to give ourselves, however we are not consulted, we have no choice, even as I type the low functioning and high functioning title is being dismissed, Asperger will no longer exist, we can then tell you we are all indeed the same, just autistic, you say we do not act or behave like your passengers who are autistic, and yet you come here to start a conversation with the very people you say cannot exist! Why is that. Are you angry about something. Are you looking to help and support someone who is autistic? Have you been in some way effected by some one with autism?

I do not expect an answer from you as I may just reply in a way you cannot dismiss.

 Anyway I do not exist as an autistic so you must be talking to yourself or a liar. 

I have not told you wether I am autistic or not. Maybe you can tell me?