Hi everyone, This is my first post on here, I’m looking forward to chatting with you all Smile I’ve tried to change my profile name but having technical issues, when I sort it out I’ll be called CarGuy.
I’ve recently self diagnosed after a lifetime of stress trying to deal with all social situations with my peers. Reading this forum has been so good, reading all these posts of people with exactly the same lifelong issues that I’ve had, I’m not the only odd one out :)
The most important to me is to have a relationship with a girl. I was quite a late developer, I wasn’t attracted to girls until I was about 15, just before that I was still into building treehouses and computer games! When I did though, I found it an even more extreme problem than boys, girls always seemed to find me weird and/or annoying.
After a few false starts I dated a girl when I was at college, aged 19. She was very pretty and very sociable, almost a social butterfly I’d say. I was flattered she wanted to go out with me and we started a relationship. It was massively tough, we had to constantly mingle with other people in social situations and I was absolutely put through the grinder emotionally. It made me feel totally inadequate and I spent the whole time dating her on “alert” with my senses on overload. All the time though, I didn’t want to lose her, this relationship was such a massive thing for me, as it was finally proof that I could have a relationship and I wasn’t a loser. Eventually though, I started to wear out mentally. I went into a huge depression, had 2 months off college where I could hardly get out of bed, my brain had ceased functioning. At the time I thought I will never be able to cope with a relationship if it was like this. We stopped seeing each other and although I felt like a failure, I gradually went back to being my normal single self, concentrating mainly on work, which seemed to make sense to me unlike people.
Over the next 18 years I kept trying relationships, and every time I just didn’t seem to click with the girls, just like people generally. I used to see them at weekends only, and was always pleased and relieved when they went home again, as I was just exhausted and needed my own space. After a while when they would mention going forward with the relationship, I would have to end it as I was already on my limit seeing them for weekends.
Then when I was about 37 and single, I started a friendship with a lady 15 years older than me. There was no physical attraction but we got on really well to the extent that we became best friends and literally started to do everything together. Cooking, cinema, running errands, watching TV, eating meals out. It was so good, I had never experienced anything like it in my life with anyone. I was able to spend time with her and not even need to be on my own to recharge.
Sadly after a while, friendship wasn’t enough, she was in love with me, but I wasn’t attracted to her physically. It was a desperate situation. The only person in my life who I have felt comfortable with was giving me an ultimatum to either be in a relationship or not see each other anymore. It was obviously perfectly understandable. I gave it so much thought but I just couldn’t pretend, I just didn’t fancy her, and I think the physical side is such an important part of a relationship.
So we went our separate ways. I’ve now started seeing someone else. I’m very attracted to her but it isn't the comfort level of my previous soulmate. I only see her at weekends and then pleased that she goes home, and then I can recharge. Mind you, even then it’s tough as she likes to talk to me for an hour every night on Whatsapp video which sometimes is too much for me. However, I have just told her about my aspergers and she’s been really interested and understanding, and is now trying to read all about it and see if we can make our relationship work.
So, I guess, I’m wondering if any of you have gone through this kind of thing, or any advice for me?
Thanks, Car Guy
Hello, I can relate to your problems with relationships. I’ve always been attracted to independent women who like a life of their own outside of the relationship. Your present girlfriend sounds like she is trying to understand and make the necessary allowances for your asperger’s. That’s a good sign. The best source of information for her is yourself. I know that some women like to keep constantly in touch during the early part of the relationship, and modern technology grants them many ways to achieve this. It can be tiring, but this is one of the things you could explain to her. Might be best to have a think about the most diplomatic to put it though.
I'm not convinced that I'm attracted to anyone at all. But I'm anxious that in my 30s I ought to have ... I conclude that I'm probably ace. But still get anxious about that... I guess maybe I want a partner eventually.
Any aces / intersectionality with AVEN here?
What is an ace, an intersectional and an aven? Maybe I’m one of these but I have no idea what they are/what they mean
I was like you, convinced I wasn’t attracted to anyone at all, but I have since been attracted to one or two people. The first one, it was love/attraction at first sight and that was over 30 years ago and although he lives in a different country to me now, we’re still in touch and I love talking to him more than any other person in the world and we talk for hours at a time on the phone, only breaking off when one of us needs to go somewhere or do something.
There's also a guy I’m highly attracted to in Bali and a few others actually, but I’m not sure I’m that keen on making things physical or taking things further. I’m also attracted to some women, so I think I can be attracted to people but I generally don’t want to take things further than a friendship or further than a thing where I see them sometimes but not make a big deal of it, although I haven’t yet got round to exploring this side of my life, post diagnosis, I’m still working on other traits, but I’ll get round to it, and who knows, Miss Single likes to do things by herself, might do a 180 or is it a 360?!? Lol! ... and find herself all coupled up, although I doubt it, but you never know, he/she would have to be ok with my going off on my solo travels etc but I think most people are ok with that in this day and age.
Who knows, I’m always open to all possibilities but I do like my single life, so that would be hard to give up, but who knows, maybe I could have a bit of both all rolled into one
Hi CarGuy. You sound like a guy who has a lot to offer for a right person. I think you thrown yourself into it and really aced relationship with your very first girlfriend. You got clearly overwhelmed and it created procedural memories in your brain. So now it's like a trigger. You limit the relationship to weekends only. Whenever the relationship becomes closer, you shut down. I understand, it's a legitimate need.
I think you need to consider what do you expect of yourself. Currently you are in your comfort zone. That's fine. The potential problem though is that the ladies who entertain relationship with you expect this to be an initial passing phase. They expect you would eventually get together, live together and yes, have children, raise them and grow old together. I think some people might present themselves being completely independent wanting to have a week-end only relationship. However that might be just a mask.
I think the idea of a relationship to most people is to have a person to come home to, to remove the armour, to fall on the sofa with, to drop the mask and be loved and accepted for who you are. Somebody who can calm your anxiety and put you at ease. Who shares your interests, who is interested and enjoys talking about things that matter to you and does not enjoy talking about things you find meaningless. Relationship is about having someone watching your back, and supporting you in good and bad times, also someone to share life's responsibilities with, such as raising a tiny human. It is also something where YOU have to be all those things for them.
I think you need to be fair with your partner, otherwise there will be huge resentment.
You might just to consider whether a deeper relationship is attractive, has a value to you. It doesn't need to go to overdrive and meltdown. You need to desensitise yourself and to define your parameters of what is feasible. It's a matter of finding the compatible person. I heard of aspies who live in two separate households, because of this need for space. It can be done, but only if the other half is genuinely happy.
If yes, whether you might like to push yourself a little further out of your comfort zone and try to figure it out with the right person. The person with whom it could be sustainable in the long term.
Ultimately all aspies have to push ourselves and grow our oyster so I would challenge you to consider that you have the strength and ability to figure out how to be a family man and a father. If we are fully human, then we can do all those things, be it a bit differently with the right person.
Hmmm, I wonder if this counts as "sexually orientated"? Maybe I should delete the entire sub-thread. For that matter maybe the whole post? Sorry folks, replying without reading the terms first, will be more careful in future.
Former Member sorry not allowed to talk about that here, it's "sexually orientated" (at least in the case of "grey ace" anyway). See www.asexuality.org
Thanks Toad42, I’ll check out the link.
Gosh, I’m learning a lot already, thank you I think this might be very enlightening and powerful for me, thank you so much and after reading Tinyexplorer’s reply to you, good luck and I trust things will work out for you, one way or the other. I agree with what Tinyexplorer says about you having a lot to give, I think we all do although I’m not convinced a relationship is what I want but it sounds like it might be for you. All the best.