Letter Re Complaint rE ESA Work Capability Assessment

Hello,

I thought it might be amusing to read , this, it would be so funny if it wasn't for the ability to screw up people's lives. Here's the reply re a WCA

"Dear Mrs XXXXX ,(name removed as not allowed to post possible identifiers)
Thank you for your e-mail of the 15th August 2017
I am sorry to learn of your concerns regarding the level of service you received from us in relation to your appointments at [Removed by moderator] Assessment Centre for a Work Capability Assessment in respect of your claim for Employment and Support Allowance (ESA).
You have said that on both occasions you were kept waiting for almost two hours. We aim to keep waiting times to a minimum and to see customers as closely as possible to the stated appointment time. However, it is not always possible to achieve this as the length of assessments can vary, with ESA assessments typically lasting between 20 minutes and 1 hour. The amount of time taken will depend upon the number and complexity of the customer's conditions and their personal circumstances. Unfortunately, if a number of assessments this can sometimes have an adverse impact on customer waiting times.

I trust our Receptionists informed you of the reason for this and apologised for the delay. However, on behalf of the centre for Health and Disability Assessments I also apologise most sincerely for any upset or inconvenience this caused. I have brought this to the attention of the Assessment Centre Manager.
You have said that your appointment on 20th July 2017 commenced but did not proceed to a conclusion, as the Healthcare Professional decided that you needed to be seen by a doctor. Certain medical conditions need to be assessed by a doctor or physiotherapist rather than a nurse. This is often identified during the initial review and the file should be noted to state this. The system should also be noted as this will allow agents at our Appointments Helpdesk to arrange appointments with an appropriate Healthcare Professional.
However, sometimes additional information provided once the assessment has commenced means that a nurse would not be able to continue to conduct your interview and assessment and it would seem that this is what occured on this occasion. I hope that you were offered an apology at the time but I am als very sorry for any upset that this would undoubtably caused to you, particularly considering the extended waiting time you had experienced.

Your assessment was then conducted on the 14th August 2017 by a physiotherapist and you have queried the appropriateness of this.
It may be helpful if I explain that the Work Capability Assessment is entirely different from the usual type of clinical examination that a GP or hospital doctor carries out. Clinical examinations are focused on making a diagnosis and deciding on the best form of traetment and management. The assessment that our Healthcare Professional carries out is directed towards determining functional ability in relation to the Department for work and Pensions (DWP) criteria and the scope of the assessment is designed to be relevant for that purpose.
Heathcare Professionals are not required by the DWP to hold specialist qualifications or have specific previous experience in mental health conditions. However, as part of their induction all Healthcare Professionals receive training in mental health issues, and are required to read evidence based protocols on mental health conditions. In addition, all Heathcare Professionals are required to engage in a programme of continuing medical education which includes modules on mental health conditions.

Some customers need to be seem by a Heathcare Professional with training to assess Complex Neurological condidtions (doctor or physiotherapist). As you had difficulty breathing when you were born it was necessary for you to be seen by such a Heathcare Professional.

The Heathcare Professional who assessed you is a Registered Physiotherapist and is a traind Disability Analyst. I trust that this reassures you that he is suitably quakified to undertake functional assessments on behalf of the Centre for Health and Disability Assessments.


(Purple is my words, oh dear if it wsn't funny enough I'll type the rest of it in as it's so funny about customer service bollocks)
Feedback is extremely valuable to us as it helps us stay open and receptive to the view of those whose lives are affected by our service. I am therefore grateful for the details of your experience, which has given me the opportunity to investigate and make the Assessment Centre Manager aware of them.

In addition, we maintain a record of all complaints and your complaint has, therefore. been entered onto this record. This means that, if this complaint is repeated, we will be in a position to look for any patterns, and any issues regardinig waiting times at this Assessment Centre can be more readily addressed.

We strive to provide all customers with a professional and courteous service. I am sorry for any upset and inconvenience caused on this occasion and hope that any future dealings you may have with our servic will not give further cause for concern.
Please find enclosed a copy of our Customer Service booklet for your information.

Should you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Yours sincerely
[Removed by moderator]
Customer Relations Manager."
If my notes had been read properly in the first place I wouldn't had to trek there for two assessments. I  did have panic attacks whilst waiting on both occasions.
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  • I thought exactly the same after reading it and a load of the comments and then come away wondering if I'm cynical or naïve.  How have we let society turn into this?  I've had two run in's with Atos years ago, when 'all' I had was depression and anxiety, both times I was sent away with nothing and had no back up or spirit to fight even though the decisions were wrong.  With hindsight these moments crippled my life and stopped me making progress.  It is extremely distressing to see that things have only got so much worse.  Social justice seems to be a concept that has flown to a distant planet.

    These things need reading/saying/thinking about but it causes such futile misery that it makes me want to get back in my shell.

  • The news article is from today...,so hoping that it might kick up some more impactful press coverage...said the naively optimistic  elephant in the corner...

  • Oh my, what a depressing read... and a meme that is all too pertinent. Disappointed

  • This is e-mail, no.2. Names of individuals removed to follow Rule 3

    Dear Customer Service Manager
    Thank you for your letter of 21st August 2017 regarding my e-mail sent on 15th August, about my appointments at [Removed by Moderator] Assessment Centre.
    ALL information/medical evidence I provided was sent with my ESA 50 form, so NOTHING new was provided on the day for the original appointment on 20th July, which ended before it reached a conclusion, as the nurse a Ms XXXXX or YYYYY ( I can't remember which) said I should be seen by a doctor given my breathing difficulties at the time of my birth. She did specifically say a "DOCTOR" , so when I returned for second appointment I thought I was going to be seen by a doctor not a physiotherapist. So I wonder how this was not noted in the the initial review , and if it had been, on the system , I would not had to experience the stress and anxiety of having to attend the Centre twice and having to wait nearly two hours on each occasion. I did suffer panic attacks whilst waiting, luckily I had a friend with me to try and calm things down.
    Regarding my new arranged appointment on 14th August 2017, I know that the Healthcare Professional isn't there to make a diagnosis. However I would expect to be seen by a doctor and not a physiotherapist seeing as I was informed that I needed to be assessed by a doctor.
    I am not convinced that a physiotherapist would have enough knowledge about my Aspergers Syndrome, and also the mental health issues I suffer from. I wonder how much training in mental health issues and Autistic Spectrum Conditions your Healthcare Professionals receive, given it takes 11 years to train as a psychiatrist, less for a counsellor or psychologist, even my GP had to train for five years before she was allowed to practice. Sorry I'm afraid that I am not reassured that the physiotherapist I saw was suitably qualified to assess my presenting conditions.
    Since the second assessment I have suffered from a low mood and suicidal thoughts as I do not believe that the assessment was conducted by a suitable Healthcare Professional, and I now worry that I will be forced to seek full time work which would stress me out severely. I am voluntarily in contact with Autism Bedfordshire, I know they are not medical professionals, but I am seeing an Employment Advisor, and she has advised me that if I wish to work at this moment in time to do voluntary work, rather than seek paid employment. I feel she knows my "functional ability" much better than the physiotherapist.
    I await your reply
    Yours sincerely
    Me
     
    Post edited by Kerri-Mod