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Job offer made to daughter and looks like they are going to rescind.....because of her aspergers...

Cheshire Family

Could someone please advise me on what they think I should do? My daughter has been diagnosed with high functioning aspergers. Although she has aspergers she has excellent cognitive ability and has just completed an English Degree - living at Uni. So she has done brilliantly.  

In july she had an interview and was offered the role of SUpport Officer at a residential home that supports people with severe epilepsy and austism. She was thrilled to bits and had disclosed she had aspergers so they asked her to go for an OH assessment. Long long story but the facts are she went for the interview they said it was fine, they asked her to go back and meet the House Manager. She was in the meeting for 7 minutes and they said that she would probably starting her training the following week.

That was end of Sept. She has chased and chased and they now say that she has to go back to OH for another meeting - which is this week as the previous one was not focusing on the 'right' areas.

I have extensive experience in the recruitment industry and know that this organisation is on extremely thin ice with respect to fairness and objectivity. I think they are taking this long so that they hope she will just disappear. THis is so so unfair as she is fantastic at dealing with people with challenging behaviour as she has to deal with her sister all the time who has aspergers too and gets extremely angry. She is probably better qualified than some of the people there!

I am furious on her behalf as this has knocked her confidence massively. She has taken it personally and wishes she had never disclosed her aspergers (I dont blame her). I cannot intervene as no-one wants a bossy parent calling. Yet she is too afraid to say anything to them in case it jeapordises her chances of a job with them. This has been going on since mid July!

I dont particularly want to make a formal complaint to the disability commission yet someone has to point out to these people that they cannot treat people like this - it just is not fair. Nor is it objective. 

It would be good to hear any ideas on how best to sort this - she would like to work with this institute as it would involve working with others and doing something she passionately wants to do. Her sedond Occupational Health 'interview is on Friday this week. Help me!

  • in reply to Plastic

    Crap! I'm used to a different forum style, this has caught me out several times now. 

    Must do better.

  • in reply to I Sperg
    • This thread is 5 years old.    Another Necro-resurrection.   Smiley
  • in reply to I Sperg

    The NHS also has a box ticking culture.  When I had a five day stay in a hospital bed, virtually unable to move, I managed to look at my notes.  These contained details of all physical examinations carried on me, every three hours, six hours, twelve hours, 24 hours.  All boxes were ticked and signed.  The notes made it clear that I was in perfect health, no bedsores or skin complaints.

    Yet, in my entire stay nobody examined me while I was in bed.  Only the boxes were ticked that all examinations had been done.

  • there are some sectors that are allowed to discriminate. such as the navy which turned me down for not having a social life of which i guess even they was suspicious that i may have autism and they are allowed to discriminate on that as ofcourse in combat such a lack of communication can cause deaths.

    im not sure if the care industry is allowed to discriminate though.... perhaps it can due to looking after vulnerable people?

  • Six months? That is wrong. The employer are dicking her about already before she's even started. I had the WORST most debilitating experience with the NHS as an I.T. contractor.

    As an I.T. contractor you get a gods eye view of an organisation because you go everywhere, and see & interact with everyone across all the layers of workers and management.

    Note the distinction I just made, between workers and management. Because THAT was what I observed, people working and people who seemed incapable of doing a days honest work, "managing". I saw top draw I.T. equipment rendered pretty unuseable by excessively slow network performance, and the support people were NOT even of my own mediocre calibre. when I got there they were missing 1400 computers, despite having just done a comprehensive "audit" the year before, and they were clueless about how to find them. Eventually my team got it down to 400, but since that was getting a bit close to me exposing the I.T. managers little sideline business, after three months of being scowled at every day, I got sacked for "gross misconduct". When I pressed HARD for an explanation from the agency they eventually came back and told me that I had been "acting like a manager"...

    I had really stepped up to keep the contract alive (when they could not find the 14000 computers initially, they wanted to lay the whole team of twenty off, so hell yes, I stuck my hand up at the meeting and reminded the so called I.T. management team how the Domain Naming System works, and could be used to easily locate some of the machines. Apparently my simple solution (Turn the machines off in DNS, and get the helpdesk to find out where the damn machines was before turning it back on again, would over stress the helpdesk too much so we had to form a team and learn the helpdesk software. Again, when that software "broke" whilst I was using it I found a work around and carried on working until 45 MINUTES LATER  they helpdesk noticed it wasn't working and the manager told everyone to stop working, at least until I stuck my hand up again and shared the workaround that was allowing me to remain productive. 

    IF my single experience of working for the N.H.S. is representative of the whole, (and of course I did get to take a look at the whole picture) I'd strongly suggest anyone who would like an enjoyable and fulfilling career in medicine look elsewhere.

    On the other hand If you are the sort of person who will sit at your desk talking about LGTB issues and what a great manager you are whilst the I.T guy waits to get on your machine, the NHS is definitely the place for you.

    I took a severe psychological injury from my experience (as you can probably tell) and I'm not sure I am THAT "weak and unique".

    Avoid the NHS as an employer and (if you can) as a service provider, my close observation of a potion of the service would suggest  they are a compromised, self aggrandising load of wasters of tax payer money, and certainly not worthy of a round of applause on a Thursday evening... 

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    This is very disappointing for her but this is the real world. Firstly, if this is a bad employer (and there are lots of them about) then she might do well to walk away from them. They deserve to be confronted with their discrimination and I would advise referring to citizens advice about how to pursue that line.

    Disclosing your Aspergers is a thorny subject. I was diagnosed a couple of years ago and have tried disclosing early and disclosing late and have ended up taking two jobs in succession where the OH interview/application form picked up on the condition. In both cases it did not affect the job offer and I went on to start the jobs. The first job was a nightmare - completely the wrong organisation - bady managed, chaotic, unsuitable for someone with ASD so I walked away aftwer 12 months to save myself! The second job is SO different and I am loving it. You have to kiss a few frogs before you find a price!

  • It seems unfair to face 3 interviews for one job. Many people who need a job wouldn't be able to wait that long. They may even have several interviews with other employers lined up. So it wouldn't technically be lying to say they're in demand. Good luck

  • Thanks for responding - she has a letter of offer but its conditional (as they often are) on the references and the Occupational health interview. She doesnt want to reduce her chances on this job offer by indicating he has other offers - when she hasnt. I suppose we just need to sit it out until her next interview on Friday. Thanks for your input - much appreciated. :)

  • Does OH mean occupational health assessment? As I've never heard of having that after or before being offered a job. I've been given an OH assessment, but that was when I was being assessed before receiving a service from such place, not to work there.

    Does she have any proof that they offered her a job? Was it just verbally agreed. I've had potential employers even refuse to acknowledge that they offered me an interview. So I would say get them to confirm in writing before you acknowledge it. She could write to them implying that she's had much interest in her availability, so she needs written agreement on when her contract will start.