Can autistic children lie?

Please forgive my ignorance. My friend has a child that has been recently diagnosed. For a long time the GPs and specialists weren't sure. We still don't know if he has Asperger's or some other type. He is a happy, friendly, 6yo boy who sometimes struggles with eye contact and has some speech difficulty. She insists autistic children cannot lie. Could you shed some light with your personal experience? Thanks in advance.

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  • I'm like others here in that it took me (and still does sometimes) a long while to get some kind of understanding of the concept of a 'white lie' but you're talking about 'black lies' presumably. I'm afraid it's your question that's wrong, and non-specific (more later) but any child under 8ish doesn't have the concept of 'right' and 'wrong' and can't sucessfully tell a lie anyway, I'm told.

    I know that I can't deliberately tell a 'black' lie. I don't differentiate anyway, a 'lie' is a 'lie' whatever its' colour, but understand that people like you can, and do.

    I think you've missed a subtle difference here between 'lies' and 'honesty'. We are all 'honest', sometimes excessively so, apparently. I can't see anything wrong with total honesty and truth myself, but I'm told that, by some strange process, people like you can be offended by it. It is highly unlikely that a 6yo ASD will deliberately tell a lie, but if they do I would look for the oppressive adults or circumstances around them that have made them feel it is necessary to, simply as self defence (Longman reply), which is the only logical explanation. Of course, the answer to any question depends on how it is phrased. Your question was very badly phrased, from our point of view. You don't specify the type of 'lie', and you don't give a hint as to why you're asking in order to give the context. This is honesty, not criticism, by the way.

    Thank you for saying iyou feel ignorant - that's easy to cure with a little education and of course, totally forgiveable. After all, it's only by admitting our ignorance that we give others the chance to teach us Smile

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  • I'm like others here in that it took me (and still does sometimes) a long while to get some kind of understanding of the concept of a 'white lie' but you're talking about 'black lies' presumably. I'm afraid it's your question that's wrong, and non-specific (more later) but any child under 8ish doesn't have the concept of 'right' and 'wrong' and can't sucessfully tell a lie anyway, I'm told.

    I know that I can't deliberately tell a 'black' lie. I don't differentiate anyway, a 'lie' is a 'lie' whatever its' colour, but understand that people like you can, and do.

    I think you've missed a subtle difference here between 'lies' and 'honesty'. We are all 'honest', sometimes excessively so, apparently. I can't see anything wrong with total honesty and truth myself, but I'm told that, by some strange process, people like you can be offended by it. It is highly unlikely that a 6yo ASD will deliberately tell a lie, but if they do I would look for the oppressive adults or circumstances around them that have made them feel it is necessary to, simply as self defence (Longman reply), which is the only logical explanation. Of course, the answer to any question depends on how it is phrased. Your question was very badly phrased, from our point of view. You don't specify the type of 'lie', and you don't give a hint as to why you're asking in order to give the context. This is honesty, not criticism, by the way.

    Thank you for saying iyou feel ignorant - that's easy to cure with a little education and of course, totally forgiveable. After all, it's only by admitting our ignorance that we give others the chance to teach us Smile

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