legalised cycling on pavements - cycle-to-work campaign

I find cyclists passing me especially from behind quite disturbing, and I really do jump when one of them rings a bell right behind me. I've seen others post about this, so thought it might be appropriate to flag up recent developments that might affect people on the spectrum.

There's a lot of drive at the moment towards green (environmentally friendly) travel, one manifestation of which is the cycle-to-work campaign. Most local authorities have policies to make it easier to cycle to work.

The commonest solution is to make cycling on the pavements legal, either a shared surface, or segregated with a white line down the middle (or usually not quite middle - more space for cyclists than pedestrians). There are Dept for transport Guidelines (LTN 1/12) which say segregated pavements should not be less than 4 metres and shared pavements not less than 3 metres. In reality the widths implemented are well below that. Quite often now pavements less than 1.5 metres wide are shared walking and cycling, and segregated often less than 3 metres.

On segregated pavements this often means pedestrians walk in a 1 to 1.5 metre strip on the inside of the pavement, irrespective of street furniture (lamp posts, telecoms units, litter bins), overgrown hedges etc. This creates problems for wheelchair users and other disabled.

Cyclists and pedestrians are now in very close proximity, with the cyclists rights protected, and often expecting to cycle fast.

With so much of this policy of opening up pavements to cyclists going on, there must be some quite scary situations for people on the spectrum.

Has anyone had any adverse experiences?

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  • Hi, I've been lurking for a few weeks as I'm undiagnosed and may not 'qualify' as sufficiently autistic!  This is something that drives me nuts though so I had to speak up. It was actually something I wanted to ask about when I felt 'qualified'. Hope people won't mind.

    I'm in London, and have a job (for quite a few years now) that means I'm out walking on pavements for much of the day. In the last few years the number of people riding bikes on pavements has increased. I've been knocked several times (no injuries so far though). Almost daily I find myself dodging bikes, which is sometimes painful if my knees are bad that day. Sometimes I find myself jumping if I hear a bike behind now, then it turns out to be on the road. In theory I support cycling, but I'm getting to dread bikes.

    I do point out to people it's illegal unless it's marked for bikes, but most people just say 'I know' or swear at me.  Hopefully I won't end up like Andrew Young (link with some upsetting content). Recently I told off a young lad for riding on the pavement. He did a little smile but didn't respond.  As he rode on past me I turned to look to see if he got off the pavement or not. As I did shouting broke out: him and a mate on foot had just mugged a woman!  I did give a description to the police (the station was about a 100 metres away!) but had to tell them I'm not good at faces.

    Really though I don't blame the cyclists. Where there are lanes for cyclists they are often confusing. E.g. a lane will go along the road a bit, then up on a pavement, join a shared crossing (generally at a busy street where I really need to be thinking about avoiding cars as I cross, not bikes coming from behind/the side mounting the pavement!), then the lines are worn out so the bikes don't know where to go... I think in some cases people genuinely don't know that not all crossing are shared etc. Others probably think 'everyone does it'.

    A lot of the cycle lanes are too narrow as well. Bikes need to ride well out from the curb: a lot of the lanes in London are so narrow they’d have to ride on the line to ride correctly. And that’s going to encourage drivers to feel entitled to crowd them.

    If it was up to me I’d phase out onstreet parking, and use the space for cycle lanes. Somewhere like London most people really don’t need cars.

    There is a campaign on this for blind people called Cycleyes. (I learnt about it from the woman in the video who I met on the bus!)

    You might also like to look at this site which features really bad provision for cyclists (I love some of the ironic captions).

     

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  • Hi, I've been lurking for a few weeks as I'm undiagnosed and may not 'qualify' as sufficiently autistic!  This is something that drives me nuts though so I had to speak up. It was actually something I wanted to ask about when I felt 'qualified'. Hope people won't mind.

    I'm in London, and have a job (for quite a few years now) that means I'm out walking on pavements for much of the day. In the last few years the number of people riding bikes on pavements has increased. I've been knocked several times (no injuries so far though). Almost daily I find myself dodging bikes, which is sometimes painful if my knees are bad that day. Sometimes I find myself jumping if I hear a bike behind now, then it turns out to be on the road. In theory I support cycling, but I'm getting to dread bikes.

    I do point out to people it's illegal unless it's marked for bikes, but most people just say 'I know' or swear at me.  Hopefully I won't end up like Andrew Young (link with some upsetting content). Recently I told off a young lad for riding on the pavement. He did a little smile but didn't respond.  As he rode on past me I turned to look to see if he got off the pavement or not. As I did shouting broke out: him and a mate on foot had just mugged a woman!  I did give a description to the police (the station was about a 100 metres away!) but had to tell them I'm not good at faces.

    Really though I don't blame the cyclists. Where there are lanes for cyclists they are often confusing. E.g. a lane will go along the road a bit, then up on a pavement, join a shared crossing (generally at a busy street where I really need to be thinking about avoiding cars as I cross, not bikes coming from behind/the side mounting the pavement!), then the lines are worn out so the bikes don't know where to go... I think in some cases people genuinely don't know that not all crossing are shared etc. Others probably think 'everyone does it'.

    A lot of the cycle lanes are too narrow as well. Bikes need to ride well out from the curb: a lot of the lanes in London are so narrow they’d have to ride on the line to ride correctly. And that’s going to encourage drivers to feel entitled to crowd them.

    If it was up to me I’d phase out onstreet parking, and use the space for cycle lanes. Somewhere like London most people really don’t need cars.

    There is a campaign on this for blind people called Cycleyes. (I learnt about it from the woman in the video who I met on the bus!)

    You might also like to look at this site which features really bad provision for cyclists (I love some of the ironic captions).

     

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