legalised cycling on pavements - cycle-to-work campaign

I find cyclists passing me especially from behind quite disturbing, and I really do jump when one of them rings a bell right behind me. I've seen others post about this, so thought it might be appropriate to flag up recent developments that might affect people on the spectrum.

There's a lot of drive at the moment towards green (environmentally friendly) travel, one manifestation of which is the cycle-to-work campaign. Most local authorities have policies to make it easier to cycle to work.

The commonest solution is to make cycling on the pavements legal, either a shared surface, or segregated with a white line down the middle (or usually not quite middle - more space for cyclists than pedestrians). There are Dept for transport Guidelines (LTN 1/12) which say segregated pavements should not be less than 4 metres and shared pavements not less than 3 metres. In reality the widths implemented are well below that. Quite often now pavements less than 1.5 metres wide are shared walking and cycling, and segregated often less than 3 metres.

On segregated pavements this often means pedestrians walk in a 1 to 1.5 metre strip on the inside of the pavement, irrespective of street furniture (lamp posts, telecoms units, litter bins), overgrown hedges etc. This creates problems for wheelchair users and other disabled.

Cyclists and pedestrians are now in very close proximity, with the cyclists rights protected, and often expecting to cycle fast.

With so much of this policy of opening up pavements to cyclists going on, there must be some quite scary situations for people on the spectrum.

Has anyone had any adverse experiences?

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  • recombinantsocks said:

    In my experience it is not common to see an existing pavement converted to dual use. One thing that happens with anything like this is that pedestrians are often unaware of the dual use (no fault of their own, often the signage and differentiation is not obvious) and from the cyclists viewpoint it becomes a game of spot which pedestrian will step into your path.

    There are attempts to do this properly and it seems there is, or was, a "cycle safety fund" that had cash to spend on proper conversions. There are some being implemented in Bristol at the moment and I am looking forward to having another bit of my route to work free of cars, buses. Smile

    I'm a pedestrian and car driver too so I see this from a lot of different angles and I sympathise with anyone who has had Longman's or Truecolors' experience of the inconsiderate faction.

    Have either of you tried cycling?

    I used to cycle many years ago. I didn't cycle on pavements, it just wasn't the done thing back then (1970s). I had a motorbike in the late 1970s and then a car. I've spent time in places where there are lot of cyclists and, yes, I've had problems with not knowing whether they are on my left or right behind me.

    I do not want to demonise cyclists. I've seen bad cyclists but I've seen bad people amongst all road users. I'm all for the cyclists campaigning for dedicated cycle lanes. These are far better than cyclists being on the pavement and safer for them than being on the road.

    One small gripe I have is that car drivers have to pass a test and get fines and penalty points for bad driving, whereas cyclists and pedestrians can be a complete menace and get off scot free.

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  • recombinantsocks said:

    In my experience it is not common to see an existing pavement converted to dual use. One thing that happens with anything like this is that pedestrians are often unaware of the dual use (no fault of their own, often the signage and differentiation is not obvious) and from the cyclists viewpoint it becomes a game of spot which pedestrian will step into your path.

    There are attempts to do this properly and it seems there is, or was, a "cycle safety fund" that had cash to spend on proper conversions. There are some being implemented in Bristol at the moment and I am looking forward to having another bit of my route to work free of cars, buses. Smile

    I'm a pedestrian and car driver too so I see this from a lot of different angles and I sympathise with anyone who has had Longman's or Truecolors' experience of the inconsiderate faction.

    Have either of you tried cycling?

    I used to cycle many years ago. I didn't cycle on pavements, it just wasn't the done thing back then (1970s). I had a motorbike in the late 1970s and then a car. I've spent time in places where there are lot of cyclists and, yes, I've had problems with not knowing whether they are on my left or right behind me.

    I do not want to demonise cyclists. I've seen bad cyclists but I've seen bad people amongst all road users. I'm all for the cyclists campaigning for dedicated cycle lanes. These are far better than cyclists being on the pavement and safer for them than being on the road.

    One small gripe I have is that car drivers have to pass a test and get fines and penalty points for bad driving, whereas cyclists and pedestrians can be a complete menace and get off scot free.

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