Another elephant in the room

Thanks emanningis for the links.

Reading the document that points my analysis towards:

Ruling out "solution 1" of dual citizenship: "The red lines in our manifesto, including those on freedom of movement, will stay firmly in place for the whole of this Parliament"

Solution 2  gets no mention -( perhaps unsurprisingly as I suspect that metropolitan elitism and devolution are far too hot potatoes to get out of the fire for handling at present)

the "solution 3" - negotiate business deals - I listed in my earlier response I think is the big message for where things are going:  "removes red tape from our businesses"  for example...

Maybe there's a nod to pragmatic algorithmic necessity that I listed as "solution 4"  "one in six landings at the isle of Barra airport and 40% at Stornaway airport are turned away due to the lack of low-visibility radar, known as EGNOS." , "We are reviewing the potential benefits of restoring access to this important system."

I'd admit that I can't bring myself to watch the video however commend those who so do - as it is I get a strong sense that I'm doing a cryptic crossword when exploring this sort of thing.  I wouldn't quite go as far as:

Expecto_Patronum said:

Politics is a terrifying world

more that I really don't feel that I have the "bandwidth" to get deeply into it at least in respect of the "social communication" games that are going on.  Except to say that it seems more than a bit of a happy coincidence tho' that raising Brexit just before a budget?  Or is it about making sure he's shown to be able to control the ranks and files of the party?

Hey TheCatWoman the main thing you flagged up was 

TheCatWoman said:

I think we need to be much more united as a continent in the face of threats and should be much closer in National Security terms

and that seems to be going under the radar of replies mainly thus far - and it has in the main in PMQs  altho " the clear commitment that we are making to stand with Ukraine, whatever it takes." and "what specific measures our security forces and services are taking to trace the source of those digital threats, which police indicate originated from outside the United Kingdom? "  does get a mention.

What do you reckon to what you have highlighted as being your greatest concern being apparently sidelined to rehashing old Brexit squabbles?

I think the whole idea that we abandoned security sharing with Europe on Brexit day was one of the most stupid thing the Boris Johnson goverment did, we stopped sharing intelligence with Europol and them with us, so the Gods alone know how many criminals came and went. I know Russia hadn't invaded Ukraine when we left and covid hit us soon after and sort of overtook the rest of the political agenda. But whilst Boris may have had an 'oven ready' deal in his head, he forgot to cook it at all and we all ended up with uncooked mush splattered all over us.

Whilst I never agreed with the idea of a united European military, I do think we need to work much more closely and be in a position to integrate forces much more readily. I hope we never need to unite in military action, but I think thats much less likely if Europe as a whole looks strong and united. It's not just militarily where we need to be stronger and united, but in law enforcement too, crime is multinational and needs to be dealt with a multinational, cross border problem too.

Anything about Brexit was always going to bring out the flag wavers, the xenophobes and the bar room barristers with their simplistic answers to everything, but that not a reason to not talk about it and see Brexit as something that can never be revisisted or changed, especially when it was won by such a small majority. We would never say that because one party won a general election everyone else should shut up and go away, we expect people to still support other options and hold the incumbant government to account in the form of oppostion parties, why is this any different? 

Did you ever see the film "the fifth element" TheCatWoman it was the one that was always there but no-one knew it.

Anyway here's my take on an answer and it sits in the same realm as why no-one wants to take on the bigger psychological trauma of admitting autistic people are living in a hostile and repressed society out of spite rather than practical necessity - it's too scary to admit it so let's focus on something else...

It seems to me that crime and security are forced to stay under the radar because of different model of considering solutions and problems.

What we might call Solution 5: The geopolitical security axis

It quietly allows the government to sing things like a new military banking treaty "Multilateral Defence Mechanism (MDM)."

policymogul.com/.../finland-and-netherlands-military-alliances

with Finland and Poland in the budget footnotes while the whole negotiation is about red-tape and trade.

""I'm now confirming that we will commence treaty negotiations on the multilateral defence mechanism, or Bank, with Finland, Poland and the Netherlands to boost defence investment and joint procurement across NATO allies."  John Healey October 28, 2026 UK Budget speech  

He says "NATO" but this isn't a transatlantic initiative; it is a direct alignment of European states on the front line of the continent’s security threats.

This goes by stealth because the "social communication game" on the surface is too toxic

The military and intelligence services know that Europe can't be fragmented and also be safe.

Did you ever see the film "the fifth element" TheCatWoman it was the one that was always there but no-one knew it.

Anyway here's my take on an answer and it sits in the same realm as why no-one wants to take on the bigger psychological trauma of admitting autistic people are living in a hostile and repressed society out of spite rather than practical necessity - it's too scary to admit it so let's focus on something else...

It seems to me that crime and security are forced to stay under the radar because of different model of considering solutions and problems.

What we might call Solution 5: The geopolitical security axis

It quietly allows the government to sing things like a new military banking treaty "Multilateral Defence Mechanism (MDM)."

policymogul.com/.../finland-and-netherlands-military-alliances

with Finland and Poland in the budget footnotes while the whole negotiation is about red-tape and trade.

""I'm now confirming that we will commence treaty negotiations on the multilateral defence mechanism, or Bank, with Finland, Poland and the Netherlands to boost defence investment and joint procurement across NATO allies."  John Healey October 28, 2026 UK Budget speech  

He says "NATO" but this isn't a transatlantic initiative; it is a direct alignment of European states on the front line of the continent’s security threats.

This goes by stealth because the "social communication game" on the surface is too toxic

The military and intelligence services know that Europe can't be fragmented and also be safe.

hehe "sing" should be "sign" gosh I miss AI auto-script...