Benefits, the elephant in the room

The biggest elephant in the room that nobody talks about and thats in work benefits, the government is subsidising a fair proportion of our work force with universal credit and I dont think its right. We've had a low wage economy, with low wage rises that in no way match the cost of living, keeping everybody in an insecure state of near impoverishment if not downright destitution. 

I'd use this ten year plan government keeps talking about to massively increase wages to at least the level that households claim in benefits. I'd use the current money to cushion businesses with a taper off leaving to biggest and longest cushion for small businesses. Big business would start havng hissy fits, but they're the ones most able to absorb these costs, whereas small businesses that only employ a few people can't, htey're already on a knife edge as it is.

I know there's lots of questions to be answered at how it would work, but I don't think it's unachievable or unreasonable. 

Everyone knows that employment gives people a sense of dignity and increases mental health and a general sense of well being, but I dont think that really works when half your wages are paid by the state, I think it makes employment unaffordable for some, and its not because benefits are to much, theyre not, but if you're a single person with no benefit top ups such as UC, then you can seriously lose out, by not being able to afford your rent, council tax, to even get to work at all, let alone any up front costs, like a season ticket for buses, trams or trains.

What would you do?

  • Everyone knows that employment gives people a sense of dignity and increases mental health and a general sense of well being

    I'm not sure this is true with autists.

    Just look at the number of threads here where people are struggling badly at work for a whole range of reasons - often where we are not treated with dignity and are actively bullied.

    I think most of us endure work in order to pay the bills and it certainly didn't leave me with a sense of well being.

    I'd use this ten year plan government keeps talking about to massively increase wages

    If you look at it in detail, it is a work of fiction. The approach of all governments for the last 2 decades in the UK has been reacting to events as they lack the reserves to do much more than this - Gordon Brown left the government and country nearly bankrupt and it has never recovered.

    All the plan offers is a placebo effect in my opinion.

    I don't think plans like this offer hope in the current turbulent world situation - a radical approach would be needed to break the cycle we find ourselves in and there is no appetite from politicians to do such a thing as this would become their legacy and all the negative effects would be blamed on them by future governments who would take credit for the beneficial effects.

  • Yes if we push for wages increasing above inflation as a start but as a minimum a wage so cover your bills including rebr council tax food energy and sadly even broadband and mobile phones are now what I'd call luxery essebtials. 

    That being luxery when used for fun but essential for work and paying bills

    But people also need money left over so the daily grind feels worth it 

    Sadly most governments want to look at welfare as we are all lazy etc 

    Sadly after how my last job left me feeling I've come to realise I'm unfit for work unless I can get my executive dysfunction sensory issues etc under some controll and evn if I do get awarded pip and lcwra it will still fall just short of a very basic wage  so of course I'd prefer to work but If I get those benefits I may at least be able to do 10 hours a week in work

    But with us alone I'd have to do 30 or more hours to make it worth working and that causes so much overload that I struggle to bathe even more for example 

    So in short yes the working classes need a lot of help please government