Working with an absent manager

Hi all,

I was recently diagnosed with autism (with ADHD highly probable; I'm just waiting on the assessment).

I've worked for the same company for the past four years and have been in my current role for nearly three.

In terms of people and environment, when I started, I really felt like this was the best place I'd ever worked. I previously worked for a dreadful organisation for a year, which constantly restructured itself, resulting in me having five line managers during my time there, the majority of whom were micromanagers as well. It was just a horrible experience.

When I moved into my new workplace, I really loved it. The rules and expectations for my role were incredibly clear, and I had a really great line manager with whom I had an excellent working relationship. We also got on well personally.

I then moved into a different role in the same organisation for more money.

Since starting this role, I have had what I can only describe as the worst line manager I have ever had. They do not micromanage, but instead, literally do nothing.

We have no guidelines or any real idea of what we are supposed to do, when we are supposed to do it, what the work is for, or why we are doing it.

My team member, who is also autistic, finds this equally frustrating. We will often pick up the slack. For example, our LM is currently on annual leave. During this time (and this happens a lot), we have had multiple messages from colleagues asking for confirmation on various things which our LM didn't bother clarifying with them before they left.

The difficulty is that our LM has a very unique home life. One of their children is severely disabled and has a rare condition. This obviously means their child is their priority. To clarify, we have no issue with this. We are incredibly empathetic towards them and give them a lot of leeway and help where needed.

However, their children attend school during the working day, and our LM mostly works from home. During this time, as far as we can see, they do not do any work, or at least any work that is related to our team. There is also zero communication from them. We will often hear about things we're working on from other colleagues that we have not been told about.

They also do not have professional boundaries. They will regularly tell us quite traumatic anecdotes about their caring responsibilities, presumably because they don't have anyone to talk to about this. I was a young carer when I was growing up, so I do have a lot of empathy for them. However, I don't think it's unreasonable for me not to want to hear these triggering anecdotes when I'm at work.

There is zero communication, zero transparency, and we practically had to beg to have regular catch-ups and team meetings.

I am completely done, as is my colleague, who is moving to a new role in January. I am also desperate to move on and have started seeing a careers coach to try and determine the best fit for me since my diagnosis. However, I'm also contemplating a temporary move just to get out of this situation, even if that means taking a pay cut.

Our LM has been here for 10 years and is clearly well liked by senior management. Basically, they're not going anywhere. They have an incredibly jammy deal.

We have previously spoken to the HR manager off the record about our concerns and shared an email with the LM asking for some accommodations, which they sort of implemented (giving us catch-ups and team meetings). But mostly, it's been the same.

There are so many different anecdotes I could tell you about their incompetence and attitude. For example, leaving our new team member to fend for themselves when they started (our LM went on holiday and didn't bother doing an induction, so we had to pick up the slack), asking what they could do to help at an event and then saying no to everything we suggested, and spending two years telling us they were working on a team strategy, only to finally present a one-page document which was clearly AI-generated. I could go on.

Last year I was signed off work for over a month. I now realise this was autistic burnout triggered by my line manager. I need to move on for the good of my health.

I can't tell if this is just a case of me not being in a role that suits my values and needs. I suppose this could partially be true, but then again, my last role was fine; I just got a bit bored of it.

I appreciate this is a long post. To clarify again, I do not have any issue with our LM regarding their caring duties. I am completely understanding of this. The issues stem from what they are doing during the working day, which, frankly, appears to be nothing.

Does anyone have any advice on a situation like this?

  • yeah, I had a line manager like that once. Worse, she started proceedings against me for incompetence (which was due to her lack of clear instructions). I got through the incompetence stuff without any form of disciplinary action, but it left me horrendously stressed as I'd always been one of the best at any job I did. It didn't help that both she and I worked partly from home as she obviously couldn't deal with that. I asked for a sideways move and was given one, to the next team. I still worked partly from home but we all mader it work and it turned out to be one of the best jobs I've had.

    In my case, the dodgy manager was also moved sidewaysd to another team and acquired a newly promoted assistant. After about 3 months, the new assistant asked to have lunch with me and it turned out she was going through exactly the same problems, although she didn't work from home. I'd found out during my 'incpoentence' stuff that the manager had a track record and told the new assistant everything. She stuck with the job because (a) she wasn't autistic and could cope better and (b) her manager's manager sat at the next desk and was on her side.

    I'd say ask for a sideways move. Say you can't cope with something who isn't in the office much (or whatever you feel comfortable with).

  • We have no guidelines or any real idea of what we are supposed to do, when we are supposed to do it, what the work is for, or why we are doing it.

    In this situation I would ask for a weekly meeting to go through these issues and make sure you ask for everything you need to know instead of having it handed to you. By showing the initiative  you are making your own work life better, that of your colleagues too and it will build confidence.

    It sounds like your manager has earned the current situation perhaps through long service or through good connections in middle management - either way they seem secure and attempts to complain about them are probably going to blow back at you based on my experiences of similar situation.

    So I would build a template of the information you need about your workflow and make sure this is fully addressed (in writing) at the start of each week and suggest the meeting as a way of everyone sharing their status, progress and knowledge of upcoming work / events.

    Personally I would step up and take on the role of acting team lead since the manager is mostly absent from their responsibilities and use this to highlight your successes rather than your managers failures. This is what middle management want - solutions not problems.

    Is it fair? No. This is the situation in almost every company I have worked at unfortunately and it seems a middle management mindset.

    Just the thoughts of a survivor of 4 decades in the corporate wastelands.