An official review in England has found there is a risk of people being over-diagnosed with ADHD and autism.

I’ve added the BBC link, the article is being updated constantly.

www.bbc.co.uk/.../c64g7ym4314wt

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  • From the executive summery of the report:

    " Recommendation 1

    Tackle the drivers of mental distress and ill health through an ambitious approach to prevention, early intervention and improving public mental health and wellbeing."

    This is the first of 10 recommendations...

    The UK isn't just approaching the tipping point of a failing socio-economic system; it is living through the friction of it. The old performative paradigm of "push through the stress to achieve more" is failing to hold the workforce together, resulting in an estimated £300 billion annual cost to the economy due to mental ill-health. source: post.parliament.uk/.../

    I read from the BBC article that a prominent politician has said: "people worked out how to game the system"

    Ironic that, coming from a politician.  I think politics is a career that seems to me to select and specifically reward people with that skill set.  Playing games is exactly how they achieve their success it seems to me.

    I am drawn to wish to vent about the sheer absurdity of the situation.

    It takes very few people to cause madness because fear and compliance are easy to automate through rules.  The rules of the game are constantly being rewritten by a select few so that they can never lose.

    The current socio-economic system is broken and mental ill health is the most obvious indicator of it as far as i can ascertain.

    I hope that it takes an equally small number of people to break the spell. When a small group of people stop playing the game, speak the truth plainly, and protect one another, they expose the performative system for what it is: an illusion.

    Personally I would recommend a focus entirely on local, tangible acts of sanity (like protecting one's immediate circle) - 

    herein:  we're all here as in my opinion somewhat victims of the situation and I believe that we should speak the truth of our experience, this is a safe zone where the performative games don't apply, if everyone walks off the field of play of the games that the BBC report and can get stuck in to doing things of real worth and quality then that'll starve the fuel of the game that the rule makers want to play with us...

  • Just push through the stress to achieve more, that seems a very Thatcherite phrase to me? I agree that the socio-economic process is broken and I believe it has been for years, work hard and you'll be rewarded, yeah right, when has that ever been true? It might have been true for the lucky few who then get help up as examples to the rest of us to stop moaning and pull our socks up, I'm not sure its true for anyone now though.

    There's another element I wish to add to this debate and that is pollution. Since the end of WW2 there been a national imperative to produce plenty of cheap food, understandable after coming out of rationing, but there was also an increase in the numbers of chemicals added to enable farmers to grow all this food. Now everything is polluted, from the air we breathe, the food we eat and the water we drink. Then we add to it with the chemical we use to keep ourselves, our homes and our clothes clean. We live in a chemical soup, now all these chemicals may have been tested individually and been found harmless or mostly harmless, but nobodies ever looked at their collective effect.

    Given this, I wonder why nobodies looking into it, we know that there are so many oestrogen mimics in the environment that its effecting sperm counts, across species, world wide. We have a couple of generations now who've grown up and had their own children surrounded unwittingly by this chemical soup, why do we not think this might have an impact on brain development? I'm not saying this is the cause or even main cause of ND, but I think it's something we should consider, if there really is a rise and not a correction in diagnosis.

  • why nobodies looking into it

    The late neuroendocrinologist Bruce McEwen coined a term: "allostatic load" meaning the cumulative biological "wear and tear" that chronic environmental, psychological, and physical stressors inflict on the human body  .

    People do continue to look into this - there is evidence out there - you're not the only one who has these concerns.

    I would posit the question: why is the problem not being resolved?

    My answer is that we're all damned by a fallacy that the only way forward for humanity is by infinite growth - the primary mandate for which being that we must all achieve more.  The current system survives not because people love it, but because the alternatives feel incredibly risky to build.  I use the term "incredibly" deliberately there - people don't feel that alternatives are credible.

    Eventually people have to look a the numbers tho' - that's the way we prove things these days.  Yes The Thatcherite "toughen up and do more" belief does continue to have traction and yep it's evident in many layers of society past and present - from slave drivers to the old schools system that held out "spare the rod and spoil the child" in all manner of ways...  If I hadn't been drawn to conclude that I was mentally unwell I personally wouldn't have gone looking for an answer why - and part of that was answered by being identified as autistic in what I consider to be an unsanitory world for many autistic people including my self...   

    From the broader reason as to why the UK government has had to investigate the problem, So many people being mentally unwell eventually can't be ignored - can it???

    Eventually there has to reach a statistical tipping point.

    At the moment there is a battle taking place because the rules between public systems are shifting because that tipping point has clearly been reached.  Real people sustain real hurt in battles.  I'm really pi$$ed off about that.

    the antidote???

    How have people resolved this sort of thing in the past without a battle?

    Just maybe.... the moment people gather and realise, "Oh, it’s not just me; the environment we are in is toxic," the internal battle changes shape.  Maybe there's a result of the shame and self-doubt vanish.  We stop fighting our own minds and start looking at the external structure together.

    When a dominant system is broken, trying to attack it head-on just drains energy and keeps someone locked in their battle - and believe me I am still caught up in all that craziness and it is debilitating me further. It appears to me that the most successful historical movements stopped trying to fix the corrupt machine and instead built parallel spaces that operated on entirely different rules.

    Historically, when the strain becomes too much, the ultimate power has always been the withdrawal of consent.
    I'm at a point personally where I'm doing my best to dedicate my remaining energy to keeping each other safe, sane, and supported.
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  • why nobodies looking into it

    The late neuroendocrinologist Bruce McEwen coined a term: "allostatic load" meaning the cumulative biological "wear and tear" that chronic environmental, psychological, and physical stressors inflict on the human body  .

    People do continue to look into this - there is evidence out there - you're not the only one who has these concerns.

    I would posit the question: why is the problem not being resolved?

    My answer is that we're all damned by a fallacy that the only way forward for humanity is by infinite growth - the primary mandate for which being that we must all achieve more.  The current system survives not because people love it, but because the alternatives feel incredibly risky to build.  I use the term "incredibly" deliberately there - people don't feel that alternatives are credible.

    Eventually people have to look a the numbers tho' - that's the way we prove things these days.  Yes The Thatcherite "toughen up and do more" belief does continue to have traction and yep it's evident in many layers of society past and present - from slave drivers to the old schools system that held out "spare the rod and spoil the child" in all manner of ways...  If I hadn't been drawn to conclude that I was mentally unwell I personally wouldn't have gone looking for an answer why - and part of that was answered by being identified as autistic in what I consider to be an unsanitory world for many autistic people including my self...   

    From the broader reason as to why the UK government has had to investigate the problem, So many people being mentally unwell eventually can't be ignored - can it???

    Eventually there has to reach a statistical tipping point.

    At the moment there is a battle taking place because the rules between public systems are shifting because that tipping point has clearly been reached.  Real people sustain real hurt in battles.  I'm really pi$$ed off about that.

    the antidote???

    How have people resolved this sort of thing in the past without a battle?

    Just maybe.... the moment people gather and realise, "Oh, it’s not just me; the environment we are in is toxic," the internal battle changes shape.  Maybe there's a result of the shame and self-doubt vanish.  We stop fighting our own minds and start looking at the external structure together.

    When a dominant system is broken, trying to attack it head-on just drains energy and keeps someone locked in their battle - and believe me I am still caught up in all that craziness and it is debilitating me further. It appears to me that the most successful historical movements stopped trying to fix the corrupt machine and instead built parallel spaces that operated on entirely different rules.

    Historically, when the strain becomes too much, the ultimate power has always been the withdrawal of consent.
    I'm at a point personally where I'm doing my best to dedicate my remaining energy to keeping each other safe, sane, and supported.
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