BBC In Depth: the ongoing battle to define autism

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdew81wd2y8o

Warning: unsettling especially for those late diagnosed.

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  • What if... there turned out to be more autistics than NT's? Yippee!!!!!!!

  • That thought has crossed my mind several times, too! But looking at the numbers, it presents a really fascinating 'what if.'
    Right now, the best educated guess for formal autism prevalence sits between 1% and 3%, while the broader umbrella of invisible neurominorities is estimated at 15% to 20% of the global population. So even if everyone unmasked, we wouldn't outnumber neurotypicals.
    However, we don't actually need to be the majority to change society. According to a landmark study in Science by Dr Damon Centola, a minority group just needs to reach a 25% tipping point to create a dramatic shift where the majority rapidly adopts new social norms.
    Since neurodivergence sits just under that mark at 15–20%, the most practical way to bridge the gap to 25% is through neurotypical allies. The more people who feel safe enough to be diagnosed and live openly, the more we demonstrate our shared humanity—and the closer we get to pushing that tipping point over the line.
    Of course, to get there, people actually need access to timely identification. I deeply hope that current systemic pressures and funding cuts to assessment pathways are short-lived. Restricting the pathway to a diagnosis doesn't make neurodivergence disappear; it just forces it back into hiding, keeping our community away from that vital 25% threshold.
  • Reflecting on what I wrote above  , I realise looking at macro population statistics can sound a bit academic and detached when the ground-level reality is so brutal right now.
    Talking about reaching a 25% tipping point doesn't change the fact that people are currently stuck on five or six-year NHS waiting lists just trying to get the validation they need. That's why the point about AI tools speeding up assessments by removing administrative backlogs is so vital. We can't build visibility or allyship if the systemic gatekeeping keeps slamming the door on people before they even get to the start line.
  • Hi @TheCatWoman  Good to see you here on this thread.
    Just as a quick disclaimer: I used AI to help me structure and type up this response, but the core thoughts and arguments are entirely my own. But maybe it actually proves the point I wish to express — I used the technology as a calculator to save time on the formatting and help my research and analysis, but it still required my human brain to direct the ideas and make sure that what I wrote made accurate sense! 
    I think looking at AI as a clinical calculator is exactly the right approach for autism assessments.
    If I have to do long maths on paper, it takes me forever. If I use a calculator, it takes seconds—but I still need my human brain to know which buttons to press, and to look at the final answer to say, 'Wait, that doesn't look like the right ballpark figure, let me double-check that.'
    I believe human oversight is especially vital because of how complex and differently interpreted diagnostic criteria already are:
    • Checking the Machine's Manual: Like many people in the UK, my own diagnosis was assessed using the American DSM-5 framework, but the NHS also relies on the WHO (ICD-11) framework for its wider health records. A major problem with an AI trained purely on the DSM is that it treats diagnosis like a rigid, binary checklist—if someone scores one point less than the cut-off, a machine simply says 'no'. A machine cannot understand what the WHO framework highlights: that a person might pass a rigid checklist but still experience severe hidden struggles because their environment isn't accommodating.
    • Spotting Overlapping Conditions: An AI looking at pure data points can easily mistake dyslexic processing delays or ADHD traits for an autistic communication difference. A human clinician brings the holistic nuance needed to unpick how these different traits interact in real life.
    • Freeing up Humans for 'People Work': Right now, a massive chunk of an assessment is just administrative paperwork, scoring questionnaires, and transcribing histories. If AI acts as the calculator to handle that data entry, it frees up clinicians from behind their desks. In my view, it lets human experts spend their limited time actually being people with the people.
    • It Pays for Itself: Using AI as a screening assistant to sort initial data could drastically cut the time and cost per assessment. I would love to see those saved resources funneled directly into cutting down brutal waiting lists and funding actual, real-world support services.
    At the end of the day, I don't think we should turn the final judgment over to an algorithm. But if we use AI to do the heavy lifting of the paperwork, we can get humans back to doing what they do best: listening, validating, and supporting.
  • I'm not so sure about AI being trained to test for Autism, it depends on what data it's fed to enable it to make a diagnosis and I think that could become very biased very easily.

    Will it say no if you score one point less than for a "positive" mark?

    How will it take into account other things like dyslexia?

    A human could say someones borderline or has some strong suggestive features of autism or whatever gobbledygook they use and make provision accordingly, but will AI have that level of discernment?

    Will different AI's have differnt criteria, it's confusing enough now with things like the DSM being differently interpreted in the US than in Britain?

    I think we need more actual people, humans doing this stuff, not turning it over to machines and when the AI spits out its results will people still be waiting for anything to actually be done? Will the AI deliver help accessing services, where they exist and sorting out the post code lottery?

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  • I'm not so sure about AI being trained to test for Autism, it depends on what data it's fed to enable it to make a diagnosis and I think that could become very biased very easily.

    Will it say no if you score one point less than for a "positive" mark?

    How will it take into account other things like dyslexia?

    A human could say someones borderline or has some strong suggestive features of autism or whatever gobbledygook they use and make provision accordingly, but will AI have that level of discernment?

    Will different AI's have differnt criteria, it's confusing enough now with things like the DSM being differently interpreted in the US than in Britain?

    I think we need more actual people, humans doing this stuff, not turning it over to machines and when the AI spits out its results will people still be waiting for anything to actually be done? Will the AI deliver help accessing services, where they exist and sorting out the post code lottery?

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  • Hi @TheCatWoman  Good to see you here on this thread.
    Just as a quick disclaimer: I used AI to help me structure and type up this response, but the core thoughts and arguments are entirely my own. But maybe it actually proves the point I wish to express — I used the technology as a calculator to save time on the formatting and help my research and analysis, but it still required my human brain to direct the ideas and make sure that what I wrote made accurate sense! 
    I think looking at AI as a clinical calculator is exactly the right approach for autism assessments.
    If I have to do long maths on paper, it takes me forever. If I use a calculator, it takes seconds—but I still need my human brain to know which buttons to press, and to look at the final answer to say, 'Wait, that doesn't look like the right ballpark figure, let me double-check that.'
    I believe human oversight is especially vital because of how complex and differently interpreted diagnostic criteria already are:
    • Checking the Machine's Manual: Like many people in the UK, my own diagnosis was assessed using the American DSM-5 framework, but the NHS also relies on the WHO (ICD-11) framework for its wider health records. A major problem with an AI trained purely on the DSM is that it treats diagnosis like a rigid, binary checklist—if someone scores one point less than the cut-off, a machine simply says 'no'. A machine cannot understand what the WHO framework highlights: that a person might pass a rigid checklist but still experience severe hidden struggles because their environment isn't accommodating.
    • Spotting Overlapping Conditions: An AI looking at pure data points can easily mistake dyslexic processing delays or ADHD traits for an autistic communication difference. A human clinician brings the holistic nuance needed to unpick how these different traits interact in real life.
    • Freeing up Humans for 'People Work': Right now, a massive chunk of an assessment is just administrative paperwork, scoring questionnaires, and transcribing histories. If AI acts as the calculator to handle that data entry, it frees up clinicians from behind their desks. In my view, it lets human experts spend their limited time actually being people with the people.
    • It Pays for Itself: Using AI as a screening assistant to sort initial data could drastically cut the time and cost per assessment. I would love to see those saved resources funneled directly into cutting down brutal waiting lists and funding actual, real-world support services.
    At the end of the day, I don't think we should turn the final judgment over to an algorithm. But if we use AI to do the heavy lifting of the paperwork, we can get humans back to doing what they do best: listening, validating, and supporting.